Football Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated? - Page 2

Hootie · 09-22-2014, 11:16 PM

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/

I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.

Jewish Rabbi · 09-22-2014, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I wouldn't go that far. There aren't many guys out there with his ability, which is why I hate when people compare other QBs to him. You could find posts comparing Geno to him, which is ridiculous. His release his off the charts fast, and his throw velocity is ridiculous. Just the mechanics of his ability are amazing. The ball comes out of his hand different than other guys. I still don't think there's been any QB the last 25 years play better than he did during that Super Bowl run, and then that following season where they went 15-1 or whatever it was.

You're telling me those 30 yard jump balls to Jordy where the defender ends up on his ass aren't luck? Okay.

Valiant · 09-23-2014, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

You're telling me those 30 yard jump balls to Jordy where the defender ends up on his ass aren't luck? Okay.

So he has been lucky 10x more than any other QB in that time frame? That is weird luck. I guess Peyton should thank his stars for him being so lucky so often when it comes to completion percentage and deep throws also.

ModSocks · 09-23-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

You can gif up a pretty throw for nearly every QB in the NFL. He's a game manager with a good running game and the league's best Defense.

Hammock Parties · 09-23-2014, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

You can gif up a pretty throw for nearly every QB in the NFL. He's a game manager with a good running game and the league's best Defense.

There's a huge difference in being #4 in YPA and #29.

That is the difference between Russell and Alex.

Russell Wilson had a higher percentage of his passes completed over 20 yards than anyone else in the NFL last year.

Alex...well...ha!

splatbass · 09-23-2014, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

You post that one, but you won't post the long TD pass from Alex Smith to Avery in the playoff game. A little disingenuous, don't you think?

Hammock Parties · 09-23-2014, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

You post that one, but you won't post the long TD pass from Alex Smith to Avery in the playoff game. A little disingenuous, don't you think?

bro, read.

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

There's a huge difference in being #4 in YPA and #29.

That is the difference between Russell and Alex.

Russell Wilson had a higher percentage of his passes completed over 20 yards than anyone else in the NFL last year.

Alex...well...ha!

splatbass · 09-23-2014, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

bro, read.

And as I have pointed out to you repeatedly, YPA is a useless way to judge a QB, especially one in the West Coast offense. But you know that, you would just rather deceive.

Hammock Parties · 09-23-2014, 01:52 AM

Find a guy ranked #29 in YPA that also won a Super Bowl that year. I'll wait.

OldSchool · 09-23-2014, 01:54 AM

Rodgers was considered one of the best because he threw the best deep ball and back shoulder passes of any QB in the league. That being said, he always had a stable full of very capable WRs from the day he started to now.

But, like any QB, Rodgers can have a stinker every now and then but he is generally on point. It does seem like he is having more poor games than usual lately though, which is odd because his run game is better now.

**Rausch** · 09-23-2014, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

+GB hasn't had a run game in over a decade

Are we ignoring last year?...

OldSchool · 09-23-2014, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

+GB hasn't had a run game in over a decade

Rodgers played better when he didn't have a run game.

Eleazar · 09-23-2014, 04:09 AM

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-23-2014, 04:13 AM

Overated.

Well, then, so is Peyton. 2 SB losses? (suck it, hoot! LOL)

2010 post-season is all you need to know about Aaron Rodgers.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-23-2014, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Romo has the most 4th quarter comebacks of any quarterback over the last 4 or 5 years. Don't remember for sure the stat. I'll try to find it.

And how many play-off wins?

The_Hound · 09-23-2014, 04:22 AM

, yeah Rodgers has been gifted with some great receivers. I put him in the tier 2 of QB's, once that can do a lot with some but can't create something from nothing like brady.

09-22-2014, 11:16 PM
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated? http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/ I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket... He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco. Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL? I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not? I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh. I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close. Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.
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OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Rodgers was considered one of the best because he threw the best deep ball and back shoulder passes of any QB in the league. That being said, he always had a stable full of very capable WRs from the day he started to now. But, like any QB, Rodgers can have a stinker every now and then but he is generally on point. It does seem like he is having more poor games than usual lately though, which is odd because his run game is better now.
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The_Hound Starter Join Date: Sep 2014 Casino cash: $10001059	, yeah Rodgers has been gifted with some great receivers. I put him in the tier 2 of QB's, once that can do a lot with some but can't create something from nothing like brady.
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