Let's talk about "true fans"

[notorious]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think the number of True Fans here are greatly underestimated by most of this board. We assume that they aren't here because they don't post. They're the Silent Majority. I also think that there are a number of people that are more True Fan than they are willing to admit. To borrow a phrase from Lacan, it's the "Knowledge that doesn't know itself."

90% of the time I get in a Chiefs discussion with a stranger they are a Truefan.

It's mind-numbing.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by notorious

90% of the time I get in a Chiefs discussion with a stranger they are a Truefan.

It's mind-numbing.

I wouldn't argue that the vast majority of fans outside of CP are very homerish or are casual fans.

If they weren't they would have found CP by now.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Marcellus the True

I wouldn't argue that the vast majority of fans outside of CP are very homerish or are casual fans.

If they weren't they would have found CP by now.

I wish I could be a TrueFan. They seem a lot happier.

I am too much of a realist, though. It been bad for too long for me to be a homer.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by notorious

I wish I could be a TrueFan. They seem a lot happier.

I am too much of a realist, though. It been bad for too long for me to be a homer.

Ignorance is bliss, start sniffing glue.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Marcellus the True

I wouldn't argue that the vast majority of fans outside of CP are very homerish or are casual fans.

If they weren't they would have found CP by now.

There is a point to which even the most absolute homer, should recognize the trend and what is happening, or they deserve what they get.

I am an example of that, and they are going to have to show me something new.
So far this regime has followed the the exact same moves that have been followed for 30 years, and for most of the teams history prior to that.

In my opinion, anyone that actually believes this team will draft a QB in the first round, in the next two or three years is ignoring the facts. Why would anyone ignore the facts?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

There is a point to which even the most absolute homer, should recognize the trend and what is happening, or they deserve what they get.

I am an example of that, and they are going to have to show me something new.
So far this regime has followed the the exact same moves that have been followed for 30 years, and for most of the teams history prior to that.

In my opinion, anyone that actually believes this team will draft a QB in the first round, in the next two or three years is ignoring the facts. Why would anyone ignore the facts?

Well you are correct, the fact is we haven't drafted a QB in the first round for 30 years.

That we wont in the next say 3 years is not a fact.

Unless you think Clark does not believe in drafting and developing a QB, which there is no evidence to support, then the last 30 years truly is meaningless to the next 3.

Shit if anything don't the odds eventually increase that we draft a QB in the 1st round?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Marcellus the True

Well you are correct, the fact is we haven't drafted a QB in the first round for 30 years.

That we wont in the next say 3 years is not a fact.

Unless you think Clark does not believe in drafting and developing a QB, which there is no evidence to support, then the last 30 years truly is meaningless to the next 3.

Shit if anything don't the odds eventually increase that we draft a QB in the 1st round?

Actually, you and I have had this discussion before and we agreed to disagree.
I do believe it is the Hunt's dictating the QB strategy. They are the consistent ingredient in this scenario, and that is the evidence I see.

All of the other parties have changed, more than once, but the results are the same.

At the very least, Coaches are so afraid to take a chance on drafting one and losing their job. Could the Hunt's be telling them if they draft a QB, they better damn well be right or they are gone?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I do believe it is the Hunt's dictating the QB strategy. They are the consistent ingredient in this scenario, and that is the evidence I see.

All of the other parties have changed, more than once, but the results are the same.

At the very least, Coaches are so afraid to take a chance on drafting one and losing their job. Could the Hunt's be telling them if they draft a QB, they better damn well be right or they are gone?

That's exactly what I think. There's no evidence to this point that that's changed. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised at some point.

As far as the "naysayers and optimists making things worse", I'm sorry to say that's completely a two-way street. In a lot of ways talking Chiefs football here is like a political discussion. I think that's just the internet, though. People seem to be losing the ability to have civil discussions. So much polarization, so much proselytization.

[Earthling]

I'm optimistic at the start of each season. For a long time now I have been beaten down to a nay-sayer at some point in the season. A good year for me is for that beat down not to occur untill the 5th or 6th game has played out.

That being said, I am very optimistic at this point. I am probably in the minority thinking that with a great O-line MOST QB's are going to be successful. And conversely a poor O-line can render even the best QB's ineffective. So yeah, I think we will compete this year. Don't take that away for at least 5 or 6 games please.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by notorious

90% of the time I get in a Chiefs discussion with a stranger they are a Truefan.

It's mind-numbing.

I'm pretty sure they have a tattoo of Roaf on their left ass cheek and Shields on the right one.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm pretty sure they have a tattoo of Roaf on their left ass cheek and Shields on the right one.

It's funny, because they were what was wrong with that team.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

It's funny, because they were what was wrong with that team.

It's funny because there was one major difference in the playoff success Will had.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by notorious

90% of the time I get in a Chiefs discussion with a stranger they are a Truefan.

It's mind-numbing.

I suspect that more casual fans present the appearance of Truefans, because they have less knowledge of, and psychic investment in, the team. It's easy to just say, "go team" and then mow your yard on Sundays if they're not doing well. You like all the draft picks because, hey, it's a new guy, and you don't know enough about the players to know if trades or cuts are good or bad.

For example, if you asked me what baseball team I root for, I'd shrug and say, "None really, but I guess the Rockies since they're local." Are the Rockies a well-run team? Shrug. "I guess so. The last time I looked, they had Larry Walker and Andres Galarraga and Todd Helton. That's pretty good"