Worst draft since the Vermeil days?

[Chief Roundup]

I am no draft expert but it seems like most picks were WTF picks for several reasons from incredible reaches to questionable positional needs.

Wondering what everyone is thinking about Veach now??

[tmax63]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I'd be willing to wager they don't end up in the top half of the NFL.

If they move from #28 to the top 20 would be a sizeable improvement for 1 year.

[Molitoth]

I loved this draft because......


I didn't really give a shit about it.
We are stacked on offense with good WR depth and our QBoTF and that is a GREAT feeling.

[B_Ambuehl]

Originally Posted by nychief

Bullshit. This isn't auto drafting your fantasy team. The long and short is we haven't the foggiest idea about this draft and won't know for quite some time. I do know that he our defense sucked and he drafted almost exclusively on that side of the ball. I don't that is overthinking.

I'm not saying it's autodrafting a fantasy team. I'm saying the consensus biggest hole on this football team was corner followed by legit run stoppers. EVERYONE on this forum was sitting here the other night waiting for Veach to go up and get one of those last upper tier corners. Instead Veach moves up and drafts a marginal pass rusher and a dime backer. The Nnadi pick is legit IMO but most of the better picks were head scratching. I really hope it all works out but I've followed many teams, many drafts, and I've seen this type of movie many times before. Guys inside the football team often seem to lose objectivity when evaluating their own football team.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I loved this draft because......


I didn't really give a shit about it.
We are stacked on offense with good WR depth and our QBoTF and that is a GREAT feeling.

For me, it's the joy of once again being a casual fan. I just don't care enough anymore to get upset about it (or any other move they make). Bring on the season.

I have really no idea who any of these guys are at the end of the day. It looks to me like they're trying to fix the defense, which is good enough.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Guys inside the football team often seem to lose objectivity when evaluating their own football team.

Which NEVER happens to the fans of said team, amirite?

[O.city]

Hey htis good to see you back

[Lightrise]

I tend to look at the draft broadly taking into consideration free agents signed, who gets cut as a result and how the picks address the competition specifically within the division. Unless you do all that you can't really find the brilliance, or shortcomings of a strategy, let alone motivation. What is clear is that Veach is definitely seeking to change the attitude on this team and that is exactly what we have to have. We have to be meaner on defense. You cannot win in the playoffs without being in your face and physical. Similarly, you cannot win in the playoffs without the capability to score quickly and late in games offensively, and Veach has addressed that too.

I went back and looked at the available players after our picks. I'm not sure tweaking would have been better rather than sticking with the overall strategy. So until we find out who loses jobs we cannot truly know. I hope it means goodbye to Harris, Zombo, Bailey, Ford and Sorenson, with additional free agent signings.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by Lightrise

I tend to look at the draft broadly taking into consideration free agents signed, who gets cut as a result and how the picks address the competition specifically within the division. Unless you do all that you can't really find the brilliance, or shortcomings of a strategy, let alone motivation. What is clear is that Veach is definitely seeking to change the attitude on this team and that is exactly what we have to have. We have to be meaner on defense. You cannot win in the playoffs without being in your face and physical. Similarly, you cannot win in the playoffs without the capability to score quickly and late in games offensively, and Veach has addressed that too.

I went back and looked at the available players after our picks. I'm not sure tweaking would have been better rather than sticking with the overall strategy. So until we find out who loses jobs we cannot truly know. I hope it means goodbye to Harris, Zombo, Bailey, Ford and Sorenson, with additional free agent signings.

I think almost no one in your list is getting cut, Sorenson is the only maybe. If they cut a DL I think it will be Jenkins.

[Best22]

Yeah, no way Ford gets cut. A rotation of Houston, Ford, and Speaks is pretty nice. Give Speaks more time to develop so he can take the starting role in 2019

[Flying High D]

Originally Posted by nychief

Bullshit. This isn't auto drafting your fantasy team. The long and short is we haven't the foggiest idea about this draft and won't know for quite some time. I do know that he our defense sucked and he drafted almost exclusively on that side of the ball. I don't that is overthinking.

Ass, balls and used dog shit.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by Best22

Yeah, no way Ford gets cut. A rotation of Houston, Ford, and Speaks is pretty nice. Give Speaks more time to develop so he can take the starting role in 2019

I don't think Ford can be cut, didn't his salary get guaranteed due to injury? So cutting him would still mean we have to pay him the $9mil for this year regardless.

[Eleazar]

Couldn't agree more with those saying people are figuring out it's become a lot more enjoyable to be a casual fan. Why get in pissing matches over mid-round players that nobody really knows anything about, let alone is able to predict their future?

We have our ticket in the QB sweepstakes. The defense was horrific, they took 3 players in the first 3 rounds for the front seven. It's not a complete team yet. Some people will try to argue that it is, mostly the same people who said that last year. We are still limited by the coaching staff. Whatever.

They'll be watchable and if they're not, meh.

[Lightrise]

Originally Posted by Chargem

I think almost no one in your list is getting cut, Sorenson is the only maybe. If they cut a DL I think it will be Jenkins.

It could be Jenkins. I admit my list is a wish list mostly. But I base this on what is not happening. Harris should never be relied up on 3rd downs and that has been a problem. Bailey just doesn't get to the QB with pressure often enough and he's overpaid. Ford is expensive too and I've noticed that he's often blocked out of the play and then there's the injury and the one dimensional performance. Sorenson is also overpaid and I think we've already received the best he can offer. Zombo is getting old and while he has been there when we needed him we should be able to upgrade a little. I think most people grasp those realities, so why settle? Let's just move on now instead of postponing what is inevitable. I'm in favor of cleaning up the mess now so next year is less of a headache and we can better cope with emerging issues.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

I'm not saying it's autodrafting a fantasy team. I'm saying the consensus biggest hole on this football team was corner followed by legit run stoppers. EVERYONE on this forum was sitting here the other night waiting for Veach to go up and get one of those last upper tier corners. Instead Veach moves up and drafts a marginal pass rusher and a dime backer. The Nnadi pick is legit IMO but most of the better picks were head scratching. I really hope it all works out but I've followed many teams, many drafts, and I've seen this type of movie many times before. Guys inside the football team often seem to lose objectivity when evaluating their own football team.

It comes down to what your philosophy of building a defense is. Everybody knew that the elite pass rushers would be gone by the time we had a shot to pick one; so we all focused on the deep corner group.

Veach showed that his philosophy is that you build a defense front to back; meaning that if you can't stop the run and you can't rush the passer, it doesn't matter who's playing corner. So he went front 7 heavy. Our '14 defense with Sean Smith and the revolving door on the other side would be exhibit A of that line of thought. I think it makes sense.

and I think O'Daniel will have a big positive impact in that position over Sorensen.