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Old 04-28-2017, 06:49 AM  
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Per 810: Chiefs tried to trade back up into 1st round
And they are looking to move up in the 2nd.

They think Dalvin Cook is the target.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:07 AM   #91
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I'll say this: as excited as I am the Chiefs drafted a QB in round 1, with the upside of being a top 5 QB, if they draft Joe Mixon, I'm out.

As a Chiefs fan. Period.


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Old 04-28-2017, 09:08 AM   #92
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I still look at the flashes we occasionally saw from Ware and think that RB isn't as pressing as some think. I don't know what happened to Ware but the guy we saw last year simply wasn't the guy we saw the year prior. The first step burst and exceptional lateral agility wasn't there. I'm not sure why, but I don't think it's just gone.

I think we'll look more for RB depth than a true 3-down guy unless the value is just too strong (like Mixon with our comp 3rd or something).
And Charcandrick lost 10 lbs this offseason. He might be a little better, too.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:09 AM   #93
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It's really difficult to hide cornerbacks.

We didn't have anyone that could handle WRs like Keenan Allen.

His injury saved our ass last year.

CB,ILB and RB are all important positions of need for us.
True.

The Chiefs need DL depth as well but it's easier to work around a flawed 5-tech. Granted, it's tough when you also lack a strong run-support ILB but that just supports the idea that they'd consider ILB ahead of DL.

RB is also easy to scheme around so I don't think they'll accelerate the need there either.

CB and ILB seem like the most obvious spots where they could use some more players and can't really hide it if things go sideways on them.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:09 AM   #94
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CB is a bigger need than many would want to believe, as I have said all along. Why? Well, we all saw the TB game without Peters.
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I think he still has Hodges in his pocket. The Howard move probably gives them enough space to make something work there.

If ILB doesn't come together like he hopes and he's left taking a gamble guy in the 4th (a Beckwith or Anzalone type), then he'll supplement that with a steadier veteran.
Oh I fully expect a Hodges signing after the draft. And I'm fine with that.
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And Charcandrick lost 10 lbs this offseason. He might be a little better, too.
He's still not dynamic.

we don't really have a #1 RB right now.
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Cunningham would be a great pick imo. I might trade up a bit for him
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He's still not dynamic.

we don't really have a #1 RB right now.
But look at Ware's 2015 tape as well as his measurable or even his tape at LSU.

Why is he an appreciably worse 'prospect' than the guys still available. He has often shown that phonebooth burst that people like in Cook. And hell, he shows agility that's absolutely unreal for a guy his size.

And again, in '15 he showed the ability to be a real hammer as well as good vision.

If you just look at his brief playing time at LSU and his '15 tape in KC, you'd say that he has tools easily on par with any of the remaining backs in this class. Now granted, that requires you ignore the last 10 weeks of the season where he just didn't look right, but I think that's a risk you can take.

It's a baseball axiom but when a player demonstrates a tool, you operate under the assumption that the tool still exists until age or injury takes it away. Well there were no injuries for Ware and he has very few miles on the odometer. So I think you have to act as though those tools are still there - at least for one more year.

And if you do that, there's little reason to believe that Ware can't be a #1 back. He absolutely looked the part in '15 and for the first few weeks of '16. Something just went off the rails mid-year. I'm not smart enough to know what that may have been.
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Maybe they like Spiller alot? Would be nice if he actualky got his shit together.

Djln, thoughts in the trade up? Per usual, I'd like to see your dumbass ideas on it
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But look at Ware's 2015 tape as well as his measurable or even his tape at LSU.

Why is he an appreciably worse 'prospect' than the guys still available. He has often shown that phonebooth burst that people like in Cook. And hell, he shows agility that's absolutely unreal for a guy his size.

And again, in '15 he showed the ability to be a real hammer as well as good vision.

If you just look at his brief playing time at LSU and his '15 tape in KC, you'd say that he has tools easily on par with any of the remaining backs in this class. Now granted, that requires you ignore the last 10 weeks of the season where he just didn't look right, but I think that's a risk you can take.

It's a baseball axiom but when a player demonstrates a tool, you operate under the assumption that the tool still exists until age or injury takes it away. Well there were no injuries for Ware and he has very few miles on the odometer. So I think you have to act as though those tools are still there - at least for one more year.

And if you do that, there's little reason to believe that Ware can't be a #1 back. He absolutely looked the part in '15 and for the first few weeks of '16. Something just went off the rails mid-year. I'm not smart enough to know what that may have been.
Alex Smith?

Give Ware a shot with a real QB and I think the dude can be a 1,000+ yard back every season. FFS....how many times did Smith overthrow Ware on gimme passes?
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Dorsey said Spiller looks like his old self, so RB likely won't be high on their priority list. That's 3 guys right there, and I'm sure they like Reaves too.
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Cunningham would be a great pick imo. I might trade up a bit for him
Yeah, if he's still there at 50, I think you'd have to consider using the comp 3rd to move up for him.

It would sting to pretty much take all of the depth out of this draft but eliminating your 3rd round, but you could justify it to walk away with two guys that have significant upside at vital positions.
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CB is a bigger need than many would want to believe, as I have said all along. Why? Well, we all saw the TB game without Peters.
Injury aside, we still need a big,fast cornerback to match up with some of these wrs.

Too many of them right now to just ignore the problem.

Peters is a stud but he's quicker than fast and not that big.

Kevin King 6'3" and a 4.45 40 would be useful.

King has some flaws but I think those flaws would be helped by our scheme. It allows our CB to pin WR against the sideline only giving them a 1-way go.
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