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Old 05-22-2012, 09:15 AM  
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Daboll installing the 2010 Browns Offense?
Running back Peyton Hillis on what offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, his former coach in Cleveland, brings to the Chiefs and his smooth transition to a similar offense:

“It was good coming in and already knowing the playbook. When you know what you’re doing, you’re faster when you do it. He (Daboll) knows how to create mismatches for me out of the backfield, and then at the receiver spot. He’s really good with the quarterbacks too. It’s been pretty laid back for me, just helping the guys get to know the playbook and get things going. It’s good for me, and it’s good for the other teammates in the room with me because I can help them out.”
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:22 PM   #136
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Okay, I'm going to take a deep breath.

Go back two pages and see how we got here.

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Clayton was correct. When you have a game manger at QB, you need a good OC to manage him. When you have a franchise QB, which KC doesn't have, you don't have to worry about OC as much.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:29 PM   #137
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And yet the teams with the best QBs still won most of the time.
Dallas and Denver won half the SBs in the 90s because they had the best running game.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:30 PM   #138
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:33 PM   #139
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Clayton was correct. When you have a game manger at QB, you need a good OC to manage him
You cant win SBs with this.
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Dallas and Denver won half the SBs in the 90s because they had the best running game.
And they also had elite quarterbacks. They don't win shit without Aikman or Elway.
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You cant win SBs with this.
The Buccaneers and Ravens did.
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The Buccaneers and Ravens did.
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Do you really think Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer would have played well enough to win the SB if Jon Gruden and Brian Billick hadn't been their playcallers? I don't, regardless of what their defenses were doing.

And the perfect example of this is Steve Bono and Paul Hackett in '95, with our #1 defense.
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My point here is OC doesnt mean squat when you have an elite QB.

Daboll may very well be a shit OC. Who knows?

We'll find out.

Either way, it doesnt matter until Cassel is gone.
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My point here is OC doesnt mean squat when you have an elite QB.
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That's irrelevant to our situation.

We have Cassel, so Pioli gets criticized for bringing in a shit OC.
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Do you really think Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer would have played well enough to win the SB if Jon Gruden and Brian Billick hadn't been their playcallers? I don't, regardless of what their defenses were doing.

And the perfect example of this is Steve Bono and Paul Hackett in '95, with our #1 defense.
Well, you cant ignore what the Defenses did because they were the reason they won their SBs. The QBs were just along for the ride.
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That's irrelevant to our situation.

We have Cassel, so Pioli gets criticized for bringing in a shit OC.
I'm done. I can only assume you're trolling and being obtuse on purpose.
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I'm not trolling.

Explain why Pioli doesn't deserve criticism for bringing in a shit OC.
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Well, you cant ignore what the Defenses did because they were the reason they won their SBs. The QBs were just along for the ride.
Yes, but they also made key plays at key times.

It's entirely possible, had those QBs not been managed by competent playcallers, that they **** up championship dreams.

Like Bono and Hackett did in 95 with the Chiefs #1 defense.
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Brad Johnson only threw 6 INT the season the Bucs won it all.

You gonna tell me Jon Gruden had nothing to do with that?

Part of the reason we went to the playoffs in 2010 was Cassel limiting his turnovers.

You gonna tell me Weis had nothing to do with that?
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