Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

Part 2: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293623

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by TinyEvel

I agree. According to this, any fool can buy a gun and just bring it wherever they want? I knew some guys in college who I wouldn't want carrying a knife or even a friggen pointed stick let alone a hand cannon. Or some shit-scared person who buys it for "self-protection" but never used it on a target range or knows proper safety and handling.

It was always legal for any non felon fool to buy a gun and carry it around. It's the covering it with a jacket that they made legal.

Same gun owner, same gun, same location.. just an added piece of cloth.

[Lzen]

Not to start a political discussion but I am listening to Dana Loesch's book, Hands Off My Gun: Defeating the Plot to Disarm America. In it, she mentions an ad from Michael Bloomberg's Mayor's Against Illegal Guns. Out of curiosity, I found it on Youtube. Here is the response to it.

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Not to start a political discussion but I am listening to Dana Loesch's book, Hands Off My Gun: Defeating the Plot to Disarm America. In it, she mentions an ad from Michael Bloomberg's Mayor's Against Illegal Guns. Out of curiosity, I found it on Youtube. Here is the response to it.

The LWNJ's do have a point.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by TinyEvel

So, starting July 1st Kansas will not require any training nor permits for concealed carry.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/article18291908.html

Thoughts?

I know a lot of people, including those that stand for gun rights, will not like this law. Many believe that people should be required to take the conceal carry class. For me, I don't believe that should be necessary. I believe the 2nd amendment is pretty clear on that matter. So, I guess I would say that I have no problem with it.

That being said, I will continue to renew my CCL because this law will not apply when you travel to other states whereas the CCL is reciprocal in many other states (not including leftist run places like California, Washington, Illinois, and much of the Northeast).

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by mac459

I would prefer them to require training but make the classes free and just have like a $10 charge for the permit..or something like that..similar to getting your driving license..study up take a test pass it get a little card

The only reason I feel that way is so people carrying know the law and don't get in a lot of trouble for carrying someplace they aren't supposed to or using it in a situation that might get them into trouble

That would make a lot of sense. It would cost the state money to pay the trainer but I wouldn't think it would amount to that much. How many people would actually get a CCL? But with the state's current budget shortfall, that was probably never in the cards.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by Lzen

That would make a lot of sense. It would cost the state money to pay the trainer but I wouldn't think it would amount to that much. How many people would actually get a CCL? But with the state's current budget shortfall, that was probably never in the cards.

I think they should make the trainer a State Trooper..it is how they do driving tests..a Trooper is right there and maybe a civilian or 2 but if a Trooper is on payroll already so that saves money..as far as people taking it goes I do believe more people would take the test if all it consisted of was a day or 2 of classes then a $10 charge to get the permit

I know it's not a perfect idea but I think it would work out better for everyone

[Lzen]

Not that I care much for Walmart, but this is a good thing, IMO.

Posted by Bob Owens on April 15, 2015 at 1:20 pm

Trinity Church, an left-leaning, politically activist church in New York City, attempted to force a shareholder vote on the kind of firearms sold by Walmart in federal court.

Companies nationwide watched the case with rapt attention, as a victory by Trinity Church to determine something as mundane as product selection would create a quagmire of competing proposals from different special interest groups, making it nearly impossible for companies to function day-to-day.

Fortunately, a federal appeals court saw the obvious insanity of allowing such a proposal to move forward, and sided with Walmart and freedom.

A federal appeals court on Tuesday lifted an injunction that would have required Wal-Mart Stores Inc to let shareholders vote on a proposal to tighten oversight of its sale of guns with high-capacity magazines.

In a brief order, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals vacated a permanent injunction imposed in November by U.S. District Judge Leonard Stark that would have required a vote at Wal-Mart’s annual meeting in June.

Wal-Mart had objected that allowing a vote on the proposal from Trinity Church, a historic church in downtown Manhattan, would “open the floodgates” to more shareholder proposals, and cause excessive interference in day-to-day business operations.

The church’s proposal would have required Wal-Mart’s board to more closely examine the sale of products that might endanger public safety, hurt Wal-Mart’s reputation, or offend “family and community values” integral to Wal-Mart’s brand.

Trinity said these products might include guns with clips holding more than 10 rounds, a type it said “enabled” mass killings in Newtown, Connecticut and Aurora, Colorado.

It also said such products could include music that depicts sex or violence, the sale of which Wal-Mart already limits.

In Tuesday’s order, the appeals court said “Wal-Mart may exclude Trinity’s proposal from its 2015 proxy materials.”

There has been a sad trend among some churches in some parts of the country to go beyond outreach into outright political activism, as Dave Workman notes in his article discussing both the Walmart case and the activist congregations that took part in the battle over anti-gun I-594 in Washington last year, which resulted in the passing of an unenforceable “universal background checks” law now being challenged in federal court.

Without devolving into a theological debate, we’d simply suggest that churches should focus on the work of saving souls and helping the needy without interjecting themselves into political battles that could end up costing them their non-profit status for delving into non-prophet issues.

http://bearingarms.com/victory-walma...w-york-church/

[kepp]

I hope that "church" doesn't have tax exempt status. If it does, it's status should be removed.

[BigOlChiefsfan]

There's a president or 2 buried at Trinity - I used to walk by it on my way to Wall Street when I was in my former life. That said - bad luck to 'em.

[ghak99]

Sounds like Texas is close to allowing open carry.

Kind of hard to believe it's taken them this long to get on board.

[dmahurin]

I bought a mossberg 500 and a glock 19 yesterday. Both of them new.

[TribalElder]

I recently picked up a 40 caliber Barretta

It's kick ass

Also, I don't like the trooper trainer idea. It's bad enough that each counties sheriff now controls the ccw permits.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

I recently picked up a 40 caliber Barretta

It's kick ass

Also, I don't like the trooper trainer idea. It's bad enough that each counties sheriff now controls the ccw permits.

That's true..it was just an idea off the top of my head..having acivilian instructor would be best but I thought a trooper for trainer would help keep cost down

what model is your Barretta..I have never been a big fan of theirs but a good gun is always on my shopping list

[TribalElder]

px4

So far so good, the barrel spin is kinda weird but it must be an Italian thing. Like Benelli armi

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

I bought a mossberg 500 and a glock 19 yesterday. Both of them new.

You will love the 19. I carry it on duty. It's a sweet shooter.