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Old 02-10-2016, 10:45 AM  
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Geoff Schwartz released by the Giants...
Hmm....

Gotta think we might make a stab at this one.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:04 PM   #46
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I think the athletic ability he sowed in his pre-draft workouts suggest he has LT athletic ability, and the strength to hold up against more physical DEs.

It's all about improving technique.

Right now, he still plays too high, and looks like he is still thinking too much.

He has the physical attributes and athletic ability to be a dominating OT.
interesting

initial lineup?

Fisher,Morse,Fulton,Reid,LDT

utility backup - Pughsley
backup center - MUNYER (don't know if he is any good, Morse would be primary backup anyway)
sign a backup swing tackle in FA
Draft a RT

Fulton/Reid were clearly better at center/RG imo. They made mistakes but that was in large part because they weren't used to working together at new positions. The both benefited by being inside which help cover up there weakness at lateral movement.

Oline has a lot of strength like that, which helps the power running game with West/Ware. Although Andy Reid might stop using it now that Charles is back.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:11 PM   #47
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I don't think they'll move on from Grubbs and I think morse is the center of the future, injuries aside.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:20 PM   #48
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I don't think they'll move on from Grubbs and I think morse is the center of the future, injuries aside.
Grubbs has had two sub standard seasons in a row. He's 33 years old his cap number is exorbitant in relation to his performance.

It would be a major mistake to put Morse at center, IMO.

Actually, awful.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:37 PM   #49
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People in this thread really compared Geoff Schwartz to Marcus Peters and Jamaal Charles. Wow.
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I dont know about Peters but the only comparison I seen was mine that Jamal is often injured just like Geoff.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:41 PM   #50
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Reid's most successful years in Philly came with Childress as his OC.

As someone posted earlier this year, the Chiefs scored more points in the first half when Reid called the plays than in the second half when Pederson called the plays.

And while Brian Westbrook is similar to JC in his prime and probably closer to West, Childress had an effective running game in Minnesota with AP. While not comparable to AP (because really, who is?), Ware's role will be similar in terms of wearing down a defense and churning out the tough yards.

If the Chiefs can add another playmaker at WR, whether in the draft, Free Agency or the improvement of Conley, along with an even average right tackle, this team will be dangerous offensively, with Andy Reid's warts and all.
I wouldn't take much out of that most head coaches if they get a lead go conservative and Andy is one of them. This could explain the bolded.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:43 PM   #51
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Grubbs is a flashy band-aid that didnt quite work out, it was an earnest swing from Dorsey... but time to cut bait there
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:04 PM   #52
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It will be interesting to see what they do at RT.

Do they keep Reid there and try to continue to progress him in the system, draft a high level rookie or spend the money on a free agent? Do they resign Allen or Stephenson for the position?

Andre Smith, Mitchell Schwartz or Bobby Massie look to be the best of the bunch and all three will end up costing a bit this free agency.

IMO, the best solution would probably draft a guy high, get the best potential RT you think you could as early as you could and try to progress him as quickly as possible using Reid there until he's ready (sooner rather than later).
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:36 PM   #53
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I dont know about Peters but the only comparison I seen was mine that Jamal is often injured just like Geoff.
No he is not. And Jamaal is an all pro player and a team hall of famer. Schwartz is s journey man guard at best.
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It will be interesting to see what they do at RT.

Do they keep Reid there and try to continue to progress him in the system, draft a high level rookie or spend the money on a free agent? Do they resign Allen or Stephenson for the position?

Andre Smith, Mitchell Schwartz or Bobby Massie look to be the best of the bunch and all three will end up costing a bit this free agency.

IMO, the best solution would probably draft a guy high, get the best potential RT you think you could as early as you could and try to progress him as quickly as possible using Reid there until he's ready (sooner rather than later).
Shame we didn't get Havenstein last year. I saw he didn't give up a single sack all season.
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:57 PM   #55
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Shame we didn't get Havenstein last year. I saw he didn't give up a single sack all season.
Interestingly enough, Tyler Marz, Havenstein's Badger teammate who was a three year starter at left tackle while Rob was at RT, is being thought of as a late round selection. Havenstein was drafted in the second round last year - which everyone thought was way too high.

Pretty similar players actually, and I think that Marz is a better player (or at least he was at the same stage).
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Schwartz got left behind because his fatass was terrible. Hope he enjoys being a ****ing brown because that's his next stop
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One thing that I've been questioning lately is this: How does LDT, as a doctor in training and resident in the offseason, feel about his own concussion?

Will it affect his play on the field and his passion for football?
Deep.


But definitely something to think about.
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Grubbs is a flashy band-aid that didnt quite work out, it was an earnest swing from Dorsey... but time to cut bait there
Evidently Dorsey thought it was more than a swing, he gave Grubbs a new contract before taking a single snap.
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I dont know about Peters but the only comparison I seen was mine that Jamal is often injured just like Geoff.
That's enough for King, if he sees 2 names in the same post its a comparison.

No need to bother reading any of those pesky words in-between
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Grubbs has had two sub standard seasons in a row. He's 33 years old his cap number is exorbitant in relation to his performance.

It would be a major mistake to put Morse at center, IMO.

Actually, awful.
Morse, with his intelligence and athleticism, was playing at a near all pro level at center as a rookie.


They drafted him to play center and he excelled at it. I'm not sure why you'd move him from there, unless you can get an upgrade which isn't likely.

He was unlucky to get 2 concussions, which is worrisome, but iirc, one was while he was out front on a screen, so I'm not sure how much of it is technique
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