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Old 06-02-2015, 09:31 AM  
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Old 06-08-2015, 03:54 PM   #121
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Agree that this should be the end of fan voting. Especially since the game decides HFA. Do you guys really want Omar to.help decide that?
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Old 06-08-2015, 03:57 PM   #122
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Love Mellinger's tweet on this.

Paraphrasing, but "Royals fans, who would vote Omar Infante out of the starting lineup, almost have him voted into the ASG."
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:06 PM   #123
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That's why I have never been in favor of fan voting. I'd rather see the players and coaches vote. That would hardly be perfect and it would still be a popularity contest to some degree, but I think we'd have a better chance of seeing the best players actually get to start in the All-Star game.

The current method sucks. It has sucked for decades.
Your final two sentences are accurate but does it really matter? Other than MLB choosing to make it the deciding factor on who hosts the WS it's a pointless game. There was a time when an ASG was a great idea so fans from say Kansas City could get a chance to watch an amazing player like Mike Trout. We're so far past that kind of time that it's not even relevant. Things like the Home Run Derby are probably a bigger deal now
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:07 PM   #124
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Your final two sentences are accurate but does it really matter? Other than MLB choosing to make it the deciding factor on who hosts the WS it's a pointless game. There was a time when an ASG was a great idea so fans from say Kansas City could get a chance to watch an amazing player like Mike Trout. We're so far past that kind of time that it's not even relevant. Things like the Home Run Derby are probably a bigger deal now
You're right. The All-Star Game WAS meaningful a long time ago.

That was back when the best players played.
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:24 PM   #125
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I think Miggy overtakes him.
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:26 PM   #126
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:27 PM   #127
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Love Mellinger's tweet on this.

Paraphrasing, but "Royals fans, who would vote Omar Infante out of the starting lineup, almost have him voted into the ASG."

It's crazy. I've voted a lot & not once voted Infante or Rios.
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:53 PM   #128
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:59 PM   #129
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I think Miggy overtakes him.
Do you really think he's going to make up over 600,000 votes?
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:04 PM   #130
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It's crazy. I've voted a lot & not once voted Infante or Rios.
If you are voting for Hosmer over Miguel Cabrera, Escobar over Igesias or Bogearts, you might as well just vote for Rios and Infante too.

If you were ACTUALLY voting based on production and how valuable a player is to their team it would be this:

C - Stephen Vogt or Russell Martin
1B - Miguel Cabrera or Mark Teixeira
2B - Jason Kipnis or Dustin Pedroia, argument could be made for Dozier and Kinsler
3B - Josh Donaldson, there's really not even an argument on how you could vote Moose ahead of him. Moose def 2nd though
SS - Jose Iglesias or Xander Bogaerts, Escobar quite a bit down the list even though there are no SS having amazing seasons this yr
OF - Mike Trout, Lorenzo Cain, Nelson Cruz, Yoenis Cespedes, Josh Reddick, Kevin Kiermaeir, Brett Gardner, Adam Jones, Alex Gordon. Except for Trout, Cruz, and Cain (just because of his defense alone) all the rest of the guys are all pretty close an an argument could be made.
DH - Jose Bautista, Prince Fielder or, yes, Alex Rodriguez.

What this all means is KC should have a maximum # of 2 or 3 All-Stars only.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:10 PM   #131
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The only thing this will be good for is showing MLB what a flawed system they have and will force change so that this never happens again (nor should it).

Rios and Infante should not be sniffing an ASG. The rest of the players you can at least make a half-way intelligent argument for.


Rios and Infante in the All-Star game (if it were to happen) would be the biggest joke ever and frankly, I would hope the Commish would step in and do something about it.
Even that is a bit of a stretch. Hosmer "should" be behind Miggy and Prince. Moose and Morales are having fine seasons, but "should" clearly be in 2nd place. Gordon's offense certainly isn't ASG starter-worthy. As good as his defense is, I'm not sure it makes up for it.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:21 PM   #132
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Do you really think he's going to make up over 600,000 votes?

Yeah I do.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:02 AM   #135
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If you are voting for Hosmer over Miguel Cabrera, Escobar over Igesias or Bogearts, you might as well just vote for Rios and Infante too.

If you were ACTUALLY voting based on production and how valuable a player is to their team it would be this:

C - Stephen Vogt or Russell Martin
1B - Miguel Cabrera or Mark Teixeira
2B - Jason Kipnis or Dustin Pedroia, argument could be made for Dozier and Kinsler
3B - Josh Donaldson, there's really not even an argument on how you could vote Moose ahead of him. Moose def 2nd though
SS - Jose Iglesias or Xander Bogaerts, Escobar quite a bit down the list even though there are no SS having amazing seasons this yr
OF - Mike Trout, Lorenzo Cain, Nelson Cruz, Yoenis Cespedes, Josh Reddick, Kevin Kiermaeir, Brett Gardner, Adam Jones, Alex Gordon. Except for Trout, Cruz, and Cain (just because of his defense alone) all the rest of the guys are all pretty close an an argument could be made.
DH - Jose Bautista, Prince Fielder or, yes, Alex Rodriguez.

What this all means is KC should have a maximum # of 2 or 3 All-Stars only.
What?
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