Chiefs *****The Dorian O'Daniel Thread***** - Page 21

Dante84 · 04-27-2018, 09:00 PM

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Overview
Athletic linebackers like O'Daniel are earning high marks from NFL scouts because they need to cover the middle of the field in passing situations. ACC coaches recognized O'Daniel's talent in 2017, naming him second-team all-conference after he led the Tigers with 103 tackles, including 11.5 for loss and five sacks, as well as three pass breakups in 14 starts. One of the top outside linebacker recruits in the nation after an excellent high school career in the Washington, D.C. metro area (all-state in Maryland with 1,307 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns as senior, 16.5 tackles for loss, five sacks as junior). O'Daniel redshirted in 2013, and then got into the action regularly as a freshman, starting once and leading the team with 13 special teams tackles (had 31 total stops, sack) in 12 games played. He once again paced the team with 19 special teams stops in 2015, and was credited with 32 total tackles in 15 games as a reserve. Given a chance to play more on defense as a junior (10 starts in 15 games), O'Daniel used his quickness and tenacious nature to make 60 stops, 10 for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot, he makes up for with production and consistency. He may not have the tools to become a quality full-time starter at linebacker, but his outstanding career as a special teams cover talent could be enough to earn him a roster spot and a place in the league for years to come.

Strengths

Madman on special teams
Finished career with 48 special teams tackles and most of them in kick coverage
Has a gift for playing past kick return blocks and maintaining focus on the returner
Technically sound as tackler
Sees what he hits and drives upper body into target while wrapping to finish
Possesses agility for lateral tackles against cutback runs
Hustles to contain against perimeter runs
Offers versatility
Played near the line and matched up on slot targets
Redirects routes with force
Reads and squeezes from zone
Finished 2017 with seven passes defensed including two pick-six interceptions

Weaknesses

Just one season as starter
Has the frame of a big safety, but is an average athlete in space
Is a little sluggish in his directional change and needs a runway to get accelerate to top speed
Pursuit speed is below par
Often blocked by smaller slot players against spread rushing attacks
Needs to prove he can beat blocks near the line of scrimmage on next level
Gives up separation when matched in man coverage
Plays upright and needs to do better job of anticipating routes

ChiefsFanatic · 10-26-2018, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

It took the Chiefs trading away Alex Smith for Reid to play Mahomes. I cannot see any damn reason Reid deserves any credit for Mahomes’s performance.

Once we selected Mahomes Alex Smith was on the clock. The QB situation is nothing like the linebackers and DOD. My son was about to remodel Smith's bathroom, with an insane budget as his wife picked the most expensive options, and the day after the draft Smith called his company and basically canceled the job.

Mahomes was always going to play, but the fact of the matter is that DOD would still not be playing if not for Smith getting injured. DOD didn't succeed because of Sutton, he succeeded despite of Sutton.

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ChiefsFanatic · 10-26-2018, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Again,you're acting like we have a top 20 defense.

Sutton had Scandrick and Lucas immediately in the starting rotation.

Yet, O'Daniel only gets the nod because if the Terrance Smith injury?

That's lack of awareness with the talent that's on hand.

If DOD came into the game, pulled a Dee Ford and turned away from the ball carrier and ran in the other direction, or failed to maintain his edge responsibility, or made other mistakes, it would be plausible to say he wasn't ready yet.

But he didn't, and seemed to play extremely well. That tells me he was ready before Smith's injury.

Missing training camp hurt his development no doubt, but there were 4 preseason games, 6 previous regular season games, and roughly 45 practices since training camp. He was all caught up on whatever he missed in camp, and it took an injury for him to get real, meaningful playing time.

I honestly believe that without the injury Sutton doesn't play him more than a handful of snaps each game until at least the game after the bye week, and even then there is a chance that Sutton would still not be playing him.

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staylor26 · 10-26-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

Once we selected Mahomes Alex Smith was on the clock. The QB situation is nothing like the linebackers and DOD. My son was about to remodel Smith's bathroom, with an insane budget as his wife picked the most expensive options, and the day after the draft Smith called his company and basically canceled the job.

Mahomes was always going to play, but the fact of the matter is that DOD would still not be playing if not for Smith getting injured. DOD didn't succeed because of Sutton, he succeeded despite of Sutton.

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As was DOD. They didn’t draft him in the 3rd to keep him on the bench.

**RealSNR** · 10-26-2018, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

As was DOD. They didn’t draft him in the 3rd to keep him on the bench.

But we do that shit all the time to players.

Kpass (2nd) didn't see the goddamn field basically at all until Week 17.

Same with Steven Nelson (3rd) when he was a rookie.

staylor26 · 10-26-2018, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

But we do that shit all the time to players.

Kpass (2nd) didn't see the goddamn field basically at all until Week 17.

Same with Steven Nelson (3rd) when he was a rookie.

Yea it’s obviously frustrating at times, but here we are at 6-1 and he’s playing now. I really don’t care how it happened at this point, I’m just happy it did.

Marcellus · 10-26-2018, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

take a bit? This wasn't even an average defense. Scandrick and Lucas were inserted immediately, it was an huge oversight by Sutton for not playing O'Daniel

Scandrick was signed to be a starter and had some TC time, Lucas was with the team for 4 or 5 weeks without seeing any time and barely played until Murray got hurt.

Dunerdr · 10-26-2018, 07:36 AM

Nice to see this thread is going full reerun.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-26-2018, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Scandrick was signed to be a starter and had some TC time, Lucas was with the team for 4 or 5 weeks without seeing any time and barely played until Murray got hurt.

Were they here since TC? Mo, they were inserted because of desperation, O'Daniel didn't get his chance because Sutton is oblivious to talent until Terrence Smith got injured.

Mr_Tomahawk · 10-26-2018, 10:58 AM

Excited to see what DoD brings this week.

Really hope we have found something...

RunKC · 10-26-2018, 11:00 AM

He wasn’t ready and got on the field before the injury.

#Chiefs DC Bob Sutton said he planned to play rookie Dorian O’Daniel more against the Bengals but Terrance Smith injury expanded that plan. Thought he played well.
— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) October 25, 2018

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-26-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

He wasn’t ready and got on the field before the injury.

#Chiefs DC Bob Sutton said he planned to play rookie Dorian O’Daniel more against the Bengals but Terrance Smith injury expanded that plan. Thought he played well.
— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) October 25, 2018

Sure Bob

philfree · 10-26-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Were they here since TC? Mo, they were inserted because of desperation, O'Daniel didn't get his chance because Sutton is oblivious to talent until Terrence Smith got injured.

He was on the field before Smith was injured. And although they weren't top players the Chiefs brought in several CBs trying to put something together.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-26-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

He was on the field before Smith was injured. And although they weren't top players the Chiefs brought in several CBs trying to put something together.

10 snaps prior to the Bengals game

Skyy God · 10-26-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Nice to see this thread is going full reerun.

This.

Who gives a flying **** whether DOD should have been in a few games earlier. Maybe it’ll prevent him from hitting the rookie wall.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-26-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

LOL, this falls in line that you believe that Sutton knows readiness of players.

Yet, he's either blind or incompetent not recognizing talent present on and off the field.

I'm passive with alot of opinions, but this type of contrast in production and efficiency by replacing a single player with another that's been on the team is idiotic to hold back.

Are you unwilling or unable to address Nnadi starting on the defense?

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