The flawed logic of Mizzou fans

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.

Dude... Notre Dame has won 13 NCs to Nebraska's 5. Also, in regards to tradition, Notre Dame has won at least one NC in 7 different decades, spanning 70 years, with one 15 year gap.

Nebraska's 5 NCs are all within 2 decades, 2 back-to-back in the 70s and 3 in 4 years in the 90s, with a 23 year gap in between.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Notre Dame gets coverage all the freakin' time, and the only way Nebraska can get on national TV is if they play a good team like Mizzou. Even outside of NBC's contract, Notre Dame doesn't even have to do that.


Nebraska's more like Penn State (well, except that Penn State is good at the moment)... won a lot of games and they've have had their moments. Nothing wrong with that, but Nebraska is no Notre Dame.


Ugh, you made me see Notre Dame in a good light... now I need a shower.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose..

Would that include Yale, Princeton and Harvard? How about Army like was suggested before.

Traditional Powerhouses come and go....there are only a select few that remain and Nebraska isn't one. The closest to a true traditional powerhouse in the Big 8/12 is Oklahoma.

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[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Here are some examples that disprove your contention:

1960's:
Minnesota
Purdue
Mississippi
Michigan State

1970's:
Houston
Arizona State
Pittsburgh
Stanford
NC State

1980's:
Iowa
SMU
Texas A&M

1990's:
Texas A&M
Kansas State
Syracuse
Washington

I know Nebraska has had tradition since Bob Devaney took over the program in 1962 followed by Tom Osborne...what were they before that? Do you guys realize that if Osborne hadn't taken over the program that you guys would be just like Kansas State is now? Scary huh?

[tomahawk kid]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

That's not much compared to the programs you so desperately want to defeat.

I couldn't argue with that - but it's not fair to say that Missouri has "No Football Tradition".

That's just BS.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

I couldn't argue with that - but it's not fair to say that Missouri has "No Football Tradition".

That's just BS.

They really dont. Yeah I'm sure they have their fair share of All Americans in the past, but most people in the college football nation view tradition as national prominance, winning national titles, having mult Heisman trophy winners etc.

People would view teams like ND OU, TX USC and would say they have tradition of winning program.......MU not so much.....at least yet.

[Blindside58]

I'll take "what would a loser Husker fan say?" for $1000.00 Alex.

[mdstu]

Originally Posted by Blindside58

I'll take "what would a loser Husker fan say?" for $1000.00 Alex.

This thread reminds me of the post-game Cutler quote.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Blindside58

I'll take "what would a loser Husker fan say?" for $1000.00 Alex.

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[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Blindside58

I'll take "what would a loser Husker fan say?" for $1000.00 Alex.

[Spott]

Life's a bitch when this thing called parity comes around. Now you don't automatically get 9-10 victories a year and get the best players because you were good in the past. Now there is plenty of talent to go around and if you recruit good enough, you can beat anybody. I don't care if our logic is flawed. We won by 5 TD's and would have put 70 on the board if we didn't take our starters out at the end of the third quarter.

Maybe NU can try to get a spot in the tradition bowl at the end of the year and play some other mediocre has been like Notre Dame, Miami, FSU or Michigan.

[CoMoChief]

There is a lot of truth to this thread. MU fans are enjoying it while it lasts because they havent won a national championship in anything relevant for a long long long time.....if ever, I dunno, I havent been alive since 1900.

Basketball once was their respectable sport while Norm was around.....even though he didnt do anything great. He was the Marty Schottenheimer of NCAA Bball. And their football program has been terrible to average for many many years.

This year they finally have the pieces to make a run for a national title. Their offense is the best in the country (I think at least) they have 2 heisman hopefuls along with 2-3 all american players.

This is their year to do it all if theyre gonna do it because if they don't do it this season, they won't do it for a long time. They may come close, but this offense is taylor made for Chase Daniel......he knows the offense like the back of his hand.

Whats better is that MU can run the ball and they can run it well, which makes this offense nearly unstoppable.

But once Daniel, Maclin, and Coffman are gone, This offense isn't going to be anywhere close to what is was this and last season.

I made this same argument to my dad this past basketball season, I told him if KU is going to win a national title they better do it this season because they have the talent to do so and everyone would be leaving after the season regardless.

The same goes for MU fball this season.

MU gets a 5 star recruit here and there. Texas and OU are flooded with the best talent in the NCAA year after year. OU and TX are always ranked in the preseason, usually top 10.

Unfortunately I don't see MU being ranked at all next season.....at least to start out with.

[redbrian]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

There is a lot of truth to this thread. MU fans are enjoying it while it lasts because they havent won a national championship in anything relevant for a long long long time.....if ever, I dunno, I havent been alive since 1900.

Basketball once was their respectable sport while Norm was around.....even though he didnt do anything great. He was the Marty Schottenheimer of NCAA Bball. And their football program has been terrible to average for many many years.

This year they finally have the pieces to make a run for a national title. Their offense is the best in the country (I think at least) they have 2 heisman hopefuls along with 2-3 all american players.

This is their year to do it all if theyre gonna do it because if they don't do it this season, they won't do it for a long time. They may come close, but this offense is taylor made for Chase Daniel......he knows the offense like the back of his hand.

Whats better is that MU can run the ball and they can run it well, which makes this offense nearly unstoppable.

But once Daniel, Maclin, and Coffman are gone, This offense isn't going to be anywhere close to what is was this and last season.

I made this same argument to my dad this past basketball season, I told him if KU is going to win a national title they better do it this season because they have the talent to do so and everyone would be leaving after the season regardless.

The same goes for MU fball this season.

MU gets a 5 star recruit here and there. Texas and OU are flooded with the best talent in the NCAA year after year. OU and TX are always ranked in the preseason, usually top 10.

Unfortunately I don't see MU being ranked at all next season.....at least to start out with.

MU is loaded in the underclass......they have played every game and are gaining experince......next year no let down......

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Colorado has a completely bogus share of a national championship in '89. Everyone know that CU lost that 5th down game to a terrible Mizzou team that year to go along with a bogus victory against Notre Dame when that phantom holding call stopped ND's go ahead touchdown. CU finished the season with a loss and a tie while Georgia Tech ended the season undefeated without the the help of 2 victories given to them by incompetent refs.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

You say tradition doesn't matter, yet you're so excited about ending your 30-year losing streak in Lincoln.

You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm not crying in my beer over Nebraska's loss last night. I told you how the game would unfold. I don't feel your pain. You can't get it all back in two years.

Tradition is the reason you're so excited. You want what Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma have. You are getting a small taste of it. A national title and a Heisman this season would only be one step. You must sustain similar success over decades.

I think Kansas State and Colorado have more tradition than Mizzou. K-State recently won a conference title. Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Pelini will need several seasons to turn around the program - just like Gary Pinkel and Mark Mangino needed. Nebraska has no talent on either side of the ball. The defense isn't fast enough to blitz effectively. The offense is overrated, and the play calling sucks. I hate some of their pass plays.

It's a process. Instant gratification wasn't going to happen. You know that from your own experience.

Last year's Huskers gave up and made tons of mistakes. This year's Huskers make mistakes because they're too aggressive. I'll take the aggression.

Callahan never would've apologized to the state like Pelini did last night.

Think about the things I have mentioned here.

the most pathetic sour grapes post ever...and i'm a ku fan


lose like a man, you emo goof....

and your HC is the college equivalent of Gunther Cunningham....think about that

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

the most pathetic sour grapes post ever...and i'm a ku fan


lose like a man, you emo goof....

and your HC is the college equivalent of Gunther Cunningham....think about that