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ShowtimeSBMVP · 09:02 AM

Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane with 239 aboard enroute from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The airline said in a statement early Saturday it was attempting to locate the Boeing 777 after it lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2:40 a.m. It was scheduled to land in Beijing at 6:30 a.m.

China's state-run news agency Xinhua reported the plane was lost in airspace controlled by Vietnam, and did not make contact with Chinese air traffic controllers.

The plane is carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, and 12 crew members. The airline said it is working with authorities to locate the plane.

Boeing said on its Twitter account it is monitoring the situation, and "our thoughts are with everyone on board."

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ActiveShooter · 03-13-2014, 11:13 AM

Why can't they triangulate where the engines reported from? Anyone know?

htismaqe · 03-13-2014, 11:19 AM

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Why can't they triangulate where the engines reported from? Anyone know?

It depends on how many data collection points got the data. If it's only 1, they can't triangulate anything.

ActiveShooter · 03-13-2014, 11:51 AM

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It depends on how many data collection points got the data. If it's only 1, they can't triangulate anything.

True, but I figured after 4 hours at 480 knots, it would probably be out of range of the original data collection point. What I haven't heard is what type of communication the engines use.
I wonder if the reporting engine story will go away as BS like most all leads in this story have.

Reerun_KC · 03-13-2014, 11:53 AM

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True, but I figured after 4 hours at 480 knots, it would probably be out of range of the original data collection point. What I haven't heard is what type of communication the engines use.
I wonder if the reporting engine story will go away as BS like most all leads in this story have.

777's uplink everything via GPS from what I am told.

htismaqe · 03-13-2014, 11:55 AM

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777's uplink everything via GPS from what I am told.

So if it's a sat link, they probably only have one. Right?

Reerun_KC · 03-13-2014, 12:00 PM

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So if it's a sat link, they probably only have one. Right?

Should have two of them. All systems have a redundant system.

htismaqe · 03-13-2014, 12:01 PM

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Should have two of them. All systems have a redundant system.

Then triangulating the signal origination is theoretically possible.

Reerun_KC · 03-13-2014, 12:07 PM

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Then triangulating the signal origination is theoretically possible.

If it was online long enough it could be possible.

This has more twists than a bag of pretzels....

ghak99 · 03-13-2014, 12:07 PM

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777's uplink everything via GPS from what I am told.

If that's the case, why is this plane "missing"?

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 03-13-2014, 02:57 PM

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The 777 should have dropped the air masks in that event. Even if a door fell off, the masks would've dropped and the Cockpit should have enough air to allow staff to get masks. Autopilot should have put the plane in a very radar rich position. No Autopilot and I would imagine it would go down pretty fast, not stay up for 4 extra hours.

depressurization happens rapidly, a healthy person has only seconds to get a mask on, the depressurization creates hypoxia and sucks the 02 out of the atmoshpere almost instantly.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 03-13-2014, 02:58 PM

they are saying the report about the engine transmission is false.

**Rain Man** · 03-13-2014, 03:01 PM

I'm starting to suspect that a roc nabbed it in mid-air and took it back to its nest.

If not that, my money is still on a Payne Stewart scenario.

keg in kc · 03-13-2014, 03:08 PM

I heard an interesting wacky theory a couple nights back that maybe it was hijacked, but for ransom rather than as a terrorist act. Along the lines of what somali pirates have been doing for years.

**Rain Man** · 03-13-2014, 03:12 PM

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I heard an interesting wacky theory a couple nights back that maybe it was hijacked, but for ransom rather than as a terrorist act. Along the lines of what somali pirates have been doing for years.

That would be interesting. But it sure seems like it would be a lot harder to pull off than just getting a ship. I'm not sure why you'd go to the trouble.

I'd heard somewhere on the news or in this thread that terrorists sometimes try stuff in the third world before attempting it in America or Europe, so conceivably they could have tested an approach on this plane and then either finished it off via suicide or took it somewhere.

Or I wonder if perhaps they were figuring out how to cut off oxygen or depressurize the plane without the crew knowing. (I'm stuck on this Payne Stewart theory.)

keg in kc · 03-13-2014, 03:41 PM

I don't think it's terrorism. That's just the default answer for everything right now. My personal pet theory is that somebody shot it down.

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