Justin Houston’s last year in KC?

[kcbubb]

I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/

[TambaBerry]

another stupid opinion on Houston lol

[TEX]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

another stupid opinion on Houston lol

Stupid? He's made some points. Maybe he's still here next year, but its not foolish to be looking down the road sooner rather than later with Houston. The production isnt there to justify the contract. Unless that changes, he's not gonna stick around for its duration...

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

another stupid opinion on Houston lol

this again

[Fish]

LOL, no.

[kcbubb]

http://www.nfl.com/player/justinhous...93/careerstats

2018 0
2017 9.5
2016 4
2015 7.5

I wouldn’t pay $15,000,000 for that kind of production with a $21,000,000 cap hit. And he’s not getting any younger. Father Time is working against him as well. Our defense needs his pass rush desperately. I hope he delivers but he’s sucked thus far this year.

[chiefzilla1501]

They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.

Restructure just means moving around money to future years to save money in the current year. I assume you mean renegotiate a reduced contract?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Restructure just means moving around money to future years to save money in the current year. I assume you mean renegotiate a reduced contract?

To a large extent yes. But I doubt Houston would allow that. You'd have to extend the contract with the current contract in mind. I would guess we'd want to extend the years. Basically take his current contract and convert into bonus. For example... You could basically buy out his current contract for a $30m signing bonus over 5 years then pay significantly less base salary. The goal is to take his current expensive contract and spread it out over a longer time. Win win.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.

No.

A restructure means that we tie Houston up even longer with his salary cap hit. He can take a pay cut since he isn't worth even close to what he is getting paid but no restructure.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by JakeF

No.

A restructure means that we tie Houston up even longer with his salary cap hit. He can take a pay cut since he isn't worth even close to what he is getting paid but no restructure.

Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit.

Lowers the cap hit in the current season. It still pushes that money into later seasons. Restructuring just makes the cap hit higher later.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit.

Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit but doesn't lower the amount of money the player is paid or how much he counts against the cap? All a restructure does is push the salary cap hit a few years later and almost always makes the hit worse.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by JakeF

Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit but doesn't lower the amount of money the player is paid or how much he counts against the cap? All a restructure does is push the salary cap hit a few years later and almost always makes the hit worse.

It can lower the cap hit next year, and while it would raise the cap hit in later years, the high water mark comes down. You can go from a 20 million dollar cap hit for the next year to like 10-13 a year for the next three, which frankly I think he’s worth.