Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 6

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

That was literally the difference in the game. The defense didn't have the big turnover to put the offense in a short yardage scoring position. Which, those aren't going to happen every game - so like a lot of us have been saying, the offense is going to have to step up, drive the field, and score. Which is fantasy football which we don't like.

The first offensive possession was very good....at least until we got down in the redzone.

Or maybe the defense shouldn't have allowed TB to go 52 yards and score it's first touchdown of the game with only 10 minutes left in the game when we were done 1 score??

The idea that the defense is excused from poor performance and the offense must clean up their mistakes is a joke. It's a team game. 60 minutes on the clock and our defense allowed them to have 35 of it.

Mr. Plow · 11-21-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

A tight end jet sweep in the red zone is among the worst plays I've ever seen called.

Such a horrible call.

**fan4ever** · 11-21-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

A tight end jet sweep in the red zone is among the worst plays I've ever seen called.

I don't think I've EVER seen that play called so I GUESS you could call Reid inventive...just not in a good way.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

That is the stupid permeating CP on Mon, Nov 19. Or is it the 20th??
Doesn't matter; Tiggie is stupid forever.

You're still butthurt from the abuse you received from Dane last night. The writing is on the wall.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-21-2016, 10:17 AM

Play calling got us beat. Inside the 10 specifically.

Alex was what he is yesterday outside of the INT. He, like Reid, assumed it would be wide open and still threw it when it wasn't. Bad play. The OL didn't execute in those key situations either on the goal line.

The defense gave up 19 but in all reality was the worst it has been outside of Pittsburgh. I still can't understand how we never got pressure on Jameis. Very concerning.

I'll be the first to tell you that we need to draft a QBOTF in the 2017 draft. It's what we want, it's what we need. But Alex is not the main reason the Chiefs lost yesterday.

The Chiefs get a chance to change our outlook once again Sunday night. After what happened yesterday, a true contender will show up pissed off and ready to win a huge divisional game. A pretender will fold the tent. Plain and simple.

WhiteWhale · 11-21-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

I don't think I've EVER seen that play called so I GUESS you could call Reid inventive...just not in a good way.

He's a regular pioneer eh?

Dayze · 11-21-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

I don't think I've EVER seen that play called so I GUESS you could call Reid inventive...just not in a good way.

yep. anyone who says Reid is inventive...... so was the Slap Chop. That doesn't make it good.

threebag · 11-21-2016, 10:19 AM

What was the avg. starting field position for each team yesterday?

Seems the Bucs won yesterday similar to the way the CHIEFS have been winning

2 punts suck

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 10:21 AM

You want an excuse for the defense yesterday? They get to use the injury excuse. Considering that Smith's offense was shit even when he had Maclin.....he doesn't get that excuse.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

I'll agree to that...I don't care if we had Tom Brady in the backfield, Reid's play calling, game/clock management are all guarantees this team will only go so far...and I've had a lifetime of that. Was a Smith backer until the last two games...I now see him for what he is and so do opposing defenses.

Without Maclin and he completes 77% of his throws, has overall positive production and this is the point I bring up...the people drinking the haterade with a lack of understanding of this game.

This starting to look like the San Fran Carr/Smith controversy under Singletary. But thankfully, Reid is a winning head coach and isn't stupid enough like many of you on here to allow a controversy to happen.

**Bowser** · 11-21-2016, 10:21 AM

This thread is balls. Playmakers make plays when the game is on the line, and Alex threw an interception that cost his team the game at literally the worst time he possibly could. It was a one man route that was double covered. Alex should have never thrown that ball and the Chiefs lost because of it, period end of statement.

But other than that he was really good.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

What was the avg. starting field position for each team yesterday?

Seems the Bucs won yesterday similar to the way the CHIEFS have been winning

2 punts suck

Yep.

And despite the fact that we had TB pinned on their own 4 yard line, the defense stupidly allowed them to move the ball 60 yards.

And what did the offense do afterwards? -> Score a touchdown.

Keep blaming the offense you dummies.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-21-2016, 10:22 AM

Yesterday was the definition of a team loss. Next week will have to be a team win if they want to get the job done.

WhiteWhale · 11-21-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Without Maclin and he completes 77% of his throws, has overall positive production and this is the point I bring up...the people drinking the haterade with a lack of understanding of this game.

This starting to look like the San Fran Carr/Smith controversy under Singletary. But thankfully, Reid is a winning head coach and isn't stupid enough like many of you on here to allow a controversy to happen.

The offense scored 17 points against one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and you're yucking it up about completion percentage.

So pointless.

Meanwhile a rookie in Dallas is going to eclipse Alex's best season by a landslide on his first try.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

This thread is balls. Playmakers make plays when the game is on the line, and Alex threw an interception that cost his team the game at literally the worst time he possibly could. It was a one man route that was double covered. Alex should have never thrown that ball and the Chiefs lost because of it, period end of statement.

But other than that he was really good.

Are you saying Smith/Offense didn't drive 78 yards down the field and score a touchdown to respond to TB's TD?

Yes or no.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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11-21-2016, 10:17 AM	#80
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9139447	Play calling got us beat. Inside the 10 specifically. Alex was what he is yesterday outside of the INT. He, like Reid, assumed it would be wide open and still threw it when it wasn't. Bad play. The OL didn't execute in those key situations either on the goal line. The defense gave up 19 but in all reality was the worst it has been outside of Pittsburgh. I still can't understand how we never got pressure on Jameis. Very concerning. I'll be the first to tell you that we need to draft a QBOTF in the 2017 draft. It's what we want, it's what we need. But Alex is not the main reason the Chiefs lost yesterday. The Chiefs get a chance to change our outlook once again Sunday night. After what happened yesterday, a true contender will show up pissed off and ready to win a huge divisional game. A pretender will fold the tent. Plain and simple.
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