Jets close to getting 13th pick from Tampa

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Me neither. Just reporting what I heard.

Yep. I hear ya, I know he will be in Tampa in 2 hours. Someone told me there could also be a trade down from Tampa to Minnesota and the Jets would get one of those.

[ChiefMojo]

The difference is now that the Chiefs have filled some of these needs through the FA market. Will they turn their focus to drafting players first and foremost? Reid started his Philly career doing just that and Dorsey comes from a orginazation that focuses almost strictly on the draft. If the Chiefs keep doing the FA dance next year, then one can compare them to the Jets/Dolphins. My guess is we start to become a franchise that focuses mostly on strictly draft.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

The difference is now that the Chiefs have filled some of these needs through the FA market. Will they turn their focus to drafting players first and foremost? Reid started his Philly career doing just that and Dorsey comes from a orginazation that focuses almost strictly on the draft. If the Chiefs keep doing the FA dance next year, then one can compare them to the Jets/Dolphins. My guess is we start to become a franchise that focuses mostly on strictly draft.

Yeah, I'd be really surprised if that is their plan. I'm pretty sure this year is to fill the holes and then they'll be draft focused from here out.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Yeah, I'd be really surprised if that is their plan. I'm pretty sure this year is to fill the holes and then they'll be draft focused from here out.

Neither the Dolphins or the Jets invested as heavily in free agency in '09 and beyond (Dolphins) or '10 and beyond (Jets) as they did in '08 and '09, respectively.

The problem they faced is that they drafted lower in the frst round as a result, and didn't find the talent to replace the aging players they initially signed to have those quick turnaround seasons, and their records have declined since.

Now, we can hope that Dorsey is a big reason for the Packers recent success at finding guys in the 20s and later that have beocme big time players if the Chiefs find themselves winning as many games as some, if not most here think they can.

On the other hand, if Alex Smith plays at the level I expect in Reid's offense, this team isn't going to win more than about 5 games, so that is not going to be a major concern.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by milkman

On the other hand, if Alex Smith plays at the level I expect in Reid's offense, this team isn't going to win more than about 5 games, so that is not going to be a major concern.

Even with a productive running game and defense ranked 8-12?

I think we can with 8 with Alex if those things come together.

If the defense is average or worse, however, I can see 5 wins.

I'm actually quite curious about the running game, because it's entirely possible all this OL shuffling could **** up that too.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

Even with a productive running game and defense ranked 8-12?

I think we can with 8 with Alex if those things come together.

If the defense is average or worse, however, I can see 5 wins.

I'm actually quite curious about the running game, because it's entirely possible all this OL shuffling could **** up that too.

I think Jamaal Charles is going to have a spectacular season in Reid's offense.

I also think that Cyrus Gray will become the second back and be a big contributor in this offense.

But I also think that Reid's offense is going to ask more from Alex Smith than Smith is capable of, and his efficiency is going to take a huge hit, and he will have turn overs and mistakes that will cost this team games.

But there's also a chance that Reid begins to recognize Smith's limitations in his offense, and he adapts, and we will see an offense that passes far less, and doen't stretch the field in the way Reid's offenses have in the past, and this team wins 8 games as a result of that adjustment.

[KCDC]

If we are planning to draft Joeckel at 1.1, then I would be happy to trade down with the Jets for their first rounder and a second rounder. It is not fair value on the "value chart" but who cares? Joeckel is not going to improve this team in any meaningful way, so I'd be willing to take a later pick that might force Dorsey to pick a playmaker and get another good pick in the second round (like an ILB or S who would improve our team meaningfully).

Frankly, I'd take their second this year and their first next year. The first next year (as someone else noted) may be more valuable than a first this year, if we are QB hunting.

[Al Bundy]

Dominik gives up multiple picks for a 1 year rental of a guy with a bad knee. Not good for Dominik.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Dominik gives up multiple picks for a 1 year rental of a guy with a bad knee. Not good for Dominik.

There has to be a contract extension in place, right？

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

There has to be a contract extension in place, right？

No. 1 year deal for now.

[bigbucks24]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

No. 1 year deal for now.

The Jets have given the Bucs permission to talk to Revis to work out an extension. I don't think there is a chance in hell that this deal is done without a contract extension.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by bigbucks24

The Jets have given the Bucs permission to talk to Revis to work out an extension. I don't think there is a chance in hell that this deal is done without a contract extension.

Ehhh Dominik did this to help out his buddy Idzik, Dominik will be working with him next year in New York.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by bigbucks24

The Jets have given the Bucs permission to talk to Revis to work out an extension. I don't think there is a chance in hell that this deal is done without a contract extension.

Just like the Chiefs not getting the 42nd but rather the 54th from the Phins.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Dominik gives up multiple picks for a 1 year rental of a guy with a bad knee. Not good for Dominik.

I'm gonna weep if Freeman has to contend with a bottom 1/3 defense again.

[Al Bundy]

Yep Duminik got it put to him HARD... he officially just became a personal guy for the Jets, helped them far more than the team that will be paying him.