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Old 10-31-2012, 04:18 AM   #1
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How do you figure?
Propane is heavier than air, Natural gas is lighter
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:01 PM   #2
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Propane is actually cheaper to operate than natural gas.
Maybe where you are, but not here. Propane is expensive compared to Natural Gas.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:49 PM   #3
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Propane is actually cheaper to operate than natural gas.
And what world do you live in? I'm a propane guy, and while I ****ing love propane, we can't compete price wise with nat gas. Now CNG compared to LP is another story, but that only applies to auto-gas.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:34 AM   #4
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And what world do you live in? I'm a propane guy, and while I ****ing love propane, we can't compete price wise with nat gas. Now CNG compared to LP is another story, but that only applies to auto-gas.
Per gallon, no.

But a propane high-efficiency water heater uses less fuel than natural gas.

I have 2 houses, one in town and one in the country. The water heater in the country costs me about $25 per year less to operate (it runs on propane).
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:33 PM   #5
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Go with gas over electric. Electric will have a COP of 1 whereas gas will vary between 2.5 to 4. That is if you are getting one
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:52 PM   #6
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A couple more things I learned on my project. I removed my furnace and old crappy stove from my trailer and had messed up plumbing. Thought it was going to be an expensive fix as I'm not a plumber and the fear of rerouting and plugging open gas lines. Decided to just bring my propane tank inside. I removed the line from the front of the trailer along with the regulator and they fit right on to the tankless water heater. Screw the open lines. On the plumbing side I discovered the shark bite water fittings and pex tubing. Wow, that shit almost makes plumbing fun. You can **** up and just use that tool remove the fitting and re do the shit quick and easy.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:18 PM   #7
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I have 3 of them in a place back east and I like them, but I'm quick in/out shower, don't use dishwasher etc. If you have kids and all, you'll hate them.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:38 PM   #8
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I install and service propane on-demand water heaters. Rinnai is light years above the competition, the unit runs about 900-1300 depending on where you get it from and installation is not much more 500-1000. These are AK prices so might be less in your area. They also make units for natural gas if that is an option.

The water flow is incredible 7.5gpm-9.8gpms at minimum delta T(temperature change) our groundwater here is about 40degrees and I typically measure about 5gpm. More than enough for a standard household. And endless as well.

The condensing models are capable of 96.5% efficiency although the steady state is about 98+%. Even the non condensing models are in the mid 80% range. Combined with not using energy while not in use, they are very energy efficient.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:42 PM   #9
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Who has a tankless hot water heater?

I'm not sure - do i need to ask my Condo Manager?
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:25 AM   #11
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