Cannabis oil has been shrinking tumors in woman's brain

[stonedstooge]

Does anyone else on here use marijuana medicinally?

[go bo]

Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Does anyone else on here use marijuana medicinally?

yes, i use it to treat depression...

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by go bowe

yes, i use it to treat depression...

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...y-an-infection

[lcarus]

I don't even care if it's proven to actually treat the cancer itself. If it gives patients an appetite that was absent before, if it gives them pain relief, hell, if it even just eases their burden a little...I don't see what the problem is with it.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I don't even care if it's proven to actually treat the cancer itself. If it gives patients an appetite that was absent before, if it gives them pain relief, hell, if it even just eases their burden a little...I don't see what the problem is with it.

Agree with appetite and pain relief. However, don't call it a treatment.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Let's say, hypothetically, 5000 people have astrocytoma and are being treated. Out of that, 1000 haven't responded to treatment, so they seek alternatives to conventional methods. Now, let's say spontaneous remission (it does happen) is 1%, so out of the original 1000, ten were "treated" successfully. They tell their family members "Hey, XYZ from Dr. dumbshit really worked".

And the other 990? Well, they had grave odds anyway, but they would be like the other ten had they come sooner! This is the basis of crock-as-shit alternative methods with no causal evidence.

[Johnny Vegas]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Let's say, hypothetically, 5000 people have astrocytoma and are being treated. Out of that, 1000 haven't responded to treatment, so they seek alternatives to conventional methods. Now, let's say spontaneous remission (it does happen) is 1%, so of the 10 people who sought out other treatments, those ten were "treated" successfully. They tell their family members "Hey, XYZ from Dr. dumbshit really worked".

And the other 990? Well, they had grave odds anyway, but they would be like the other ten had they come sooner! This is the basis of crock-as-shit alternative methods with no causal evidence.

I've always believed just because doctors have been doing it one way for half a century doesn't mean its the best and only way. there should be advances in medicine and treatment and not the same old thing over and over that isn't even guaranteed to save your life. doctors aren't stupid, just stubborn.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

I've always believed just because doctors have been doing it one way for half a century doesn't mean its the best and only way. there should be advances in medicine and treatment and not the same old thing over and over that isn't even guaranteed to save your life. doctors aren't stupid, just stubborn.

Wait, we have? We've made no progress in cancer research/treatment over the last half century?

I am certain we are not using the same treatment over and over and expecting different results.

Unless you are talking about using scientific evidence to dictate research funding, which in that case, shame on us for trying to be efficient.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

I've always believed just because doctors have been doing it one way for half a century doesn't mean its the best and only way. there should be advances in medicine and treatment and not the same old thing over and over that isn't even guaranteed to save your life. doctors aren't stupid, just stubborn.

No wonder you believe in unproven "Cures". You have no idea how modern medicine works....

No advances in medicine and treatment? Guarantees to save your life? WTF?

[mcan]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Let's say, hypothetically, 5000 people have astrocytoma and are being treated. Out of that, 1000 haven't responded to treatment, so they seek alternatives to conventional methods. Now, let's say spontaneous remission (it does happen) is 1%, so out of the original 1000, ten were "treated" successfully. They tell their family members "Hey, XYZ from Dr. dumbshit really worked".

And the other 990? Well, they had grave odds anyway, but they would be like the other ten had they come sooner! This is the basis of crock-as-shit alternative methods with no causal evidence.

Well said.

However, there has been quite a bit of animal model research that shows positive benefit. This isn't quite as placebo/quack as homeopathy or magnets (or that second video with the tuning forks... ouch that's embarrassing). The problem is that the research into cannabinoids is still very inconclusive, and human trials have been small and weren't double blind. The evidence that it CAN stop some kinds of tumor growth is statistically significant, but it's countered by the fact that in some people and situations, it might not help at all, or it might be harmful. The research is going on right now.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by mcan

Well said.

However, there has been quite a bit of animal model research that shows positive benefit. This isn't quite as placebo/quack as homeopathy or magnets (or that second video with the tuning forks... ouch that's embarrassing). The problem is that the research into cannabinoids is still very inconclusive, and human trials have been small and weren't double blind. The evidence that it CAN stop some kinds of tumor growth is statistically significant, but it's countered by the fact that in some people and situations, it might not help at all, or it might be harmful. The research is going on right now.

Bump, take notes. This is how you present a credible argument.

Great post. If the evidence holds in human subjects, I trust the system and believe those treatments will be utilized.

[Buns]

I had this one:

This chick is enlarging my pants tumor!

no good?

p.s. love my hemp Vans

[Imon Yourside]

Let's say a man fell on his head and then joined CP and claimed to be a doctor in training, most can tell he's clearly delusional yet a few see him as viable poster that adds a minimum to discussion. Dumpster fire Aids tree patient or just another bear that shat in the woods?

[Shogun]

Weed fixes everything.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by Shogun

Weed fixes everything.

Absolutely not true!!! Weed definitely does not fix the munchies!