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Old 09-01-2018, 06:41 AM  
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Old 09-01-2018, 10:33 PM   #316
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Old 09-01-2018, 10:56 PM   #317
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Wow. Raiders give up legendary talent. Might even trump the Chiefs giving up JA.
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Old 09-01-2018, 10:57 PM   #318
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The Bears managed 5 games with a shellshocked Trubisky throwing to a collection of trash and had John Fox as a Head Coach. You're underrating the Bears.....especially if you got them under Detroit.
Agreed. If Trubisky shows improvement, they can win 8-10 games, which makes those picks look a lot less appealing, especially when the Raiders win 4 games this year.
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It is a good haul. Those picks will be in the top 16 of the 1st round.

Peters only landed a 2018 fourth, 2019 second.
This just gets sadder every time I read it...WTF

Overall, I think Mack is overrated. This will go down as a better deal for the fade than the Bears.

Mack is disruptive but not a game changer. Probably worth half of what he is being paid.
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:07 AM   #322
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Was just looking up a stat comparison between Houston and Mack, Mack dropped into coverage 25 times in the 2017 regular season, Houston dropped into coverage 136 times...

Mack was still a lot better in terms of %pressures generated per pass rushing snap though.
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This just gets sadder every time I read it...WTF

Overall, I think Mack is overrated. This will go down as a better deal for the fade than the Bears.

Mack is disruptive but not a game changer. Probably worth half of what he is being paid.
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They gave the bears a 2nd along with Mack?
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They gave the bears a 2nd along with Mack?

Classic draft math

To acquire Mack, Pace sent away a 2019 first-rounder, a 2020 first-rounder, a 2019 sixth-rounder, and a 2020 third-rounder. In terms of conventional draft math, that’s the same as sending away a first-rounder, second-rounder, fourth-rounder, and a sixth-rounder. If you assume the Bears will still be drafting No. 10 overall in 2019, then the approximate value of this entire package is around 1800 points. Compensatory picks make it sort of difficult to peg the exact value of those later-round selections.

In the Mack trade, the Bears are picking up a guaranteed 190-point discount with the return of a future second (valued as a mid-round third). That means the Bears acquired Mack for just over 1600 points of draft value, assuming the conditional fifth-rounder doesn’t end up coming into play. That’s equal to the No. 6 overall pick in the draft. That’s remarkable.

If the Bears are simply mediocre instead of bad in 2018, and that 2019 first-rounder is reduced to No. 16 overall instead of No. 10, then the price of acquiring Mack was less than the 1350 points that are needed to buy the No. 9 pick in the draft.

In terms of draft capital, Mack was cheaper than Leonard Floyd. I like No. 94, but that’s just not right.
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I actually think this was a good deal for the Raiders. The Raiders weren't going to compete for the division this year and with the age of their roster, was it within his window? And no way would I sign a non QB to that type of contract especially if someone was offering 2 first rounders for him. Easy decision for me.

Maybe I'm jaded after seeing Houston get injured and turn mediocre after his 20 mil per year contract or Berry play one half of a game before tearing his Achilles after signing his record contract for a safety.
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