Fugg off Kris Wilson - Page 3

teedubya · 04-25-2004, 02:34 PM

I look forward to seeing you get cut.

[yes i have anger issues... and they wont go away... like I am getting repeatedly getting kicked in the nuts.]

htismaqe · 04-29-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chi3fs

you know, when this thread was created I had sandpaper in my vagina. IN my minds eye, I see Our Favorite Non Drafted Kicker... booting a 50 yarder on us to win it in SD...

If he is really a top 60 player... excellent...Carl is a genious [CP sp] If he succeeds, Ill be stoked and praise Carl...if not.. and Wilson gets cut in 2-3 years, you can bet Ill have the same kinda smirk that Eli had on his face when he finally got that Giants jersey.

Is the value of a FG still 3 points?

Kaeding is going to have a hard time kicking a game-winner against when we score 4 times as many TD's as San Diego does.

LVNHACK · 04-29-2004, 05:10 PM

The Wilson picked really pissed me off at the time.........I'm now taking a wait and see approach..............

Dr. Johnny Fever · 04-29-2004, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Talisman

I'm not even going to ask why you would want to watch, but which bio told you he was uncircumcised?

Your post was great.......but your avatar may be the best I've ever seen...

Logical · 04-29-2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Prove it.

I'm not a fan of the pick. But what you just said is pure opinion. You have NO WAY of proving it.

I do not know Parker from everything I read there were many experts that thought he might not get drafted at all because he is too small to be an NFL TE. Anyone else drafting him as a FB or H-Back candidate would have done so on the 2nd day if at all because you don't draft fullbacks and H-backs in the top 3 rounds.

Logical · 04-29-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Is the value of a FG still 3 points?

Kaeding is going to have a hard time kicking a game-winner against when we score 4 times as many TD's as San Diego does.

28-24

Sure seems like Kaeding could have been a difference maker in that game.

teedubya · 04-29-2004, 05:48 PM

well i would be interested in how many people now, would still prefer Kris Wilson or Nate Kaeding...

My guess is over 90% would want Kaeding, if not more. I wont make a poll, because this is a dead horse.

craneref · 04-29-2004, 05:54 PM

While not a big fan of the pick, I hope that every player in a CHIEFS uniform turns into a Hall of Famer, that benefits the CHIEFS. Hoping that players that are on the CHIEFS roster fail becasue you don't like the pick is counterproductive to the CHIEFS winning. My main concern is the CHIEFS with a SB ring, not focusing on who I hope fails. I remember the discord on Dante Hall for a couple of years, but everybody is glad that we have him now. GO CHIEFS.

penchief · 04-29-2004, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saggysack

I'm happy with the draft this year. Did we fill every need? NO.. Did we really think we were going to fill every need? NO...

The veteran players on the roster now in those positions of need are just going to have to buck up and do their job better.

I agree. While some people thought we reached for players like Siavii and Wilson, I would rather see them reach for players THEY BELIEVE will help our team over players that will satisfy the public's desire to see a specific need filled by a media choice that would likely go the way of most draft picks anyway.

Wallcrawler · 04-29-2004, 08:01 PM

Wilson is going to be great for us. The guy can play fullback, Tight end, even some wide reciever, and also is a good gunner on special teams.

This guy can do 4 different things for us, whereas a kicker hardly gets into the game.

Besides, we already have Lawrence Tynes signed to a contract, a 2 year deal if I remember, after he lit up the CFL last year. I think he hit 84% of his FGs and has a strong leg. If we drafted Kaeding, that would have made 3 kickers on the roster. That makes less sense than 4 tight ends, one of which can play 4 different spots.

whoman69 · 04-29-2004, 08:13 PM

Wilson is a pick that has alot of value for a very small % of the league's teams. For this reason alone, he could not be valued as high as Gosselin lists him at. Almost noone is able to input an Hback into their scheme. Because we have Tony Gonzales, the threat is there in the two tight end set for a run or pass because of Gonzales ability to block for the run. Other teams who have a top receiving TE do not have the blocking ability to bluff the run play. They cannot input a FB into the passing game except as a screen pass because they would be too dependent upon them for protection. Name a half a dozen teams that could input Wilson into their system. Only by that mark could he be considered that high a pick. He would fail as the prototypical TE in the other systems because of his size and lack of blocking ability. He is only a high pick to the Chiefs, and the Chiefs upped the ante against themselves.

Ultra Peanut · 04-29-2004, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Is the value of a FG still 3 points?

Kaeding is going to have a hard time kicking a game-winner against when we score 4 times as many TD's as San Diego does.

Exactly. If we're in position to lose to the Chargers by a field goal, we're in the kind of shape that even the Almighty Kaeding couldn't help.

Ultra Peanut · 04-29-2004, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I do not know Parker from everything I read there were many experts that thought he might not get drafted at all because he is too small to be an NFL TE. Anyone else drafting him as a FB or H-Back candidate would have done so on the 2nd day if at all because you don't draft fullbacks and H-backs in the top 3 rounds.

http://www.nflfans.com/draft/2004/sh...=Kris%20Wilson

Kris Wilson

Position: TE
College: Pittsburgh
Projected Selection: Round2

Pros: While not that big as tight ends go, Wilson has quickness and is also an excellent blocker...has soft hands and is very good at gaining yards after catch

Cons: Maybe a bit undersized as N.F.L. tIght ends go.

So no, not everyone thought he was going to go undrafted. And if I'd seen some of the game footage of him I've seen since we drafted him before we'd drafted him, I might very well have been on his bandwagon like I was on Kaeding's or Colbert's.

whoman69 · 04-29-2004, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Psicosis

http://www.nflfans.com/draft/2004/sh...=Kris%20Wilson

Kris Wilson

Position: TE
College: Pittsburgh
Projected Selection: Round2

Pros: While not that big as tight ends go, Wilson has quickness and is also an excellent blocker...has soft hands and is very good at gaining yards after catch

Cons: Maybe a bit undersized as N.F.L. tIght ends go.

So no, not everyone thought he was going to go undrafted. And if I'd seen some of the game footage of him I've seen since we drafted him before we'd drafted him, I might very well have been on his bandwagon like I was on Kaeding's or Colbert's.

NFL draft countdown- round 4-5, #7 ranked TE, #131 overall
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/draft/value.html
NFL Draft Insiders #10 ranked TE, not listed amongst top 100 picks
http://www.draftinsiders.com/
NFL Draft Blitz- rd 4-5 on the value board, 87th amongst top 100 picks, #5 ranked TE
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/
HuddleReport- #78 overall, combine analysis: Kris Wilson Pittsburgh

Kris is a good college player that could be a good pro player if he were more consistent. He really should be moved to the FB position in the pros. He came in and did his drills and did very well, but his size makes the move at the next level to FB a natural. Of course that makes him eligible to be picked in the second day of the draft.
http://thehuddlereport.com/
Great Blue North- #131 overall, #5 ranked TE
http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm
Rob's Scouting- #145 on the big board, #5 TE, 5th round value
http://www.robscouting.com/

Ebolapox · 04-29-2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saggysack

I'd settle for a Daryl Johnston, Leroy Hoard, Mike Alstott, Jim Kleinsasser, Jason Dunn clone though.

agreed... good show, saggy

-EB-

royr17 · 04-29-2004, 11:53 PM

I actually like the Kris Wilson pick, i've played the college football game and let me tell u he is pretty darn good on there and he's not a TE he plays FB on there. He may be better than Centers, Anders, and Richardson.

04-25-2004, 02:34 PM
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	Fugg off Kris Wilson I look forward to seeing you get cut. [yes i have anger issues... and they wont go away... like I am getting repeatedly getting kicked in the nuts.]
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04-29-2004, 05:10 PM	#32
LVNHACK MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baghdad Casino cash: $10004925	The Wilson picked really pissed me off at the time.........I'm now taking a wait and see approach.............. __________________ Bleach really should be used in the gene pool Some people grow up, some just grow old.
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04-29-2004, 05:48 PM	#36
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	well i would be interested in how many people now, would still prefer Kris Wilson or Nate Kaeding... My guess is over 90% would want Kaeding, if not more. I wont make a poll, because this is a dead horse.
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04-29-2004, 05:54 PM	#37
craneref He Man bronco hater club Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Land of the Uneasy Calm Casino cash: $10004977	While not a big fan of the pick, I hope that every player in a CHIEFS uniform turns into a Hall of Famer, that benefits the CHIEFS. Hoping that players that are on the CHIEFS roster fail becasue you don't like the pick is counterproductive to the CHIEFS winning. My main concern is the CHIEFS with a SB ring, not focusing on who I hope fails. I remember the discord on Dante Hall for a couple of years, but everybody is glad that we have him now. GO CHIEFS. __________________ I have two favorite teams, the CHIEFS and whoever play the broncos this week "I'd say the French and broncos were 'scumbags' but that would be a disservice to bags full of scum." - Dennis Miller -
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04-29-2004, 08:01 PM	#39
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4222912	Wilson is going to be great for us. The guy can play fullback, Tight end, even some wide reciever, and also is a good gunner on special teams. This guy can do 4 different things for us, whereas a kicker hardly gets into the game. Besides, we already have Lawrence Tynes signed to a contract, a 2 year deal if I remember, after he lit up the CFL last year. I think he hit 84% of his FGs and has a strong leg. If we drafted Kaeding, that would have made 3 kickers on the roster. That makes less sense than 4 tight ends, one of which can play 4 different spots.
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04-29-2004, 11:53 PM	#45
royr17 MVP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lovin my kids Casino cash: $1968676	I actually like the Kris Wilson pick, i've played the college football game and let me tell u he is pretty darn good on there and he's not a TE he plays FB on there. He may be better than Centers, Anders, and Richardson.
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