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Old 11-22-2017, 12:25 AM   #1
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This whole ordeal has been a pay-for-patriotism play by the Dept of Defense. That is true. I think it's safe to say that it has backfired for the NFL.

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Old 11-22-2017, 12:29 AM   #2
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"The NFL, more than any other American sport, attaches itself to the imagery and symbolism of war and the U.S. military. Tributes for troops before and during games are common, as are reunions between family members separated by active duty. Oversized flags, soldiers in uniform, soldiers with guns — it's all there.

But it turns out these displays of patriotism and appreciation haven't just been the NFL trying to do what it considers a good thing. Rather, the Department of Defense has given millions of dollars to sports leagues for what is now being being called "paid patriotism" — in other words, subtle military advertising embedded in professional sports games with no disclaimer about who is funding the breathless pageantry."
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:31 AM   #3
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This whole ordeal has been a pay-for-patriotism play by the Dept of Defense. That is true. I think it's safe to say that it has backfired for the NFL.

http://mashable.com/2015/11/05/nfl-p.../#rjUeqnHP3Zqn
I'd argue it hasn't backfired for the DOD just yet.

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Old 11-22-2017, 02:17 AM   #4
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Or just don't perform the anthem.

Never really understood why the anthem is a staple of sporting events. Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Either way, this whole mess is just really, really dumb, and on the list of problems with this country, I'd say this ranks in the low 1000s.
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Old 11-22-2017, 04:48 AM   #5
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Or just don't perform the anthem.

Never really understood why the anthem is a staple of sporting events. Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Either way, this whole mess is just really, really dumb, and on the list of problems with this country, I'd say this ranks in the low 1000s.
Exactly this.
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:19 AM   #6
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Or just don't perform the anthem.

Never really understood why the anthem is a staple of sporting events. Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Either way, this whole mess is just really, really dumb, and on the list of problems with this country, I'd say this ranks in the low 1000s.
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:14 AM   #7
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Or just don't perform the anthem.

Never really understood why the anthem is a staple of sporting events. Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Either way, this whole mess is just really, really dumb, and on the list of problems with this country, I'd say this ranks in the low 1000s.
Can you please list 1 - 999 for us?

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Old 11-22-2017, 08:19 AM   #8
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Can you please list 1 - 999 for us?

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Old 11-22-2017, 09:14 AM   #9
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I just read that Trump just pissed all over this idea.

Not much the NFL can do to force players to do anything. I’m sure they’ll try to address it in the next CBA and it will be a huge issue. Ultimately, if TV networks pay less that will result in lower salaries and maybe that will bring about change but I doubt it.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:16 AM   #10
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Or just don't perform the anthem.

Never really understood why the anthem is a staple of sporting events. Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Either way, this whole mess is just really, really dumb, and on the list of problems with this country, I'd say this ranks in the low 1000s.
I may be wrong but I think it started because most were being held in State or Municipal owned buildings. Now it not unusual to be owned but a owner.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:30 AM   #11
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I may be wrong but I think it started because most were being held in State or Municipal owned buildings. Now it not unusual to be owned but a owner.
It started with baseball who did it as an act of patriotism to try and get their players excluded from the draft during WWI. Other sports leagues just copied.
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:57 PM   #12
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It started with baseball who did it as an act of patriotism to try and get their players excluded from the draft during WWI. Other sports leagues just copied.
And it gained more prominence during WW2

The problem is we have had a bunch of unnecessary wars since then… Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq, Afghanistan

Nobody gives a shit about the military any more, and for good reason.
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Nobody gives a shit about the military any more, and for good reason.
This country is neck-deep in absurd military worship
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Old 11-22-2017, 01:10 PM   #14
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And it gained more prominence during WW2

The problem is we have had a bunch of unnecessary wars since then… Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq, Afghanistan

Nobody gives a shit about the military any more, and for good reason.
Wtf?

Self entitled, spoiled, ignorant, selfish idiots.

Ridiculous. But keep spewing that bullshit and being oblivious.

Let me guess...not your president.
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if players continue to protest. IMO, it's great news. regardless of how symbolic the anthem is, when you have a bunch of millionaires protesting in front of a crowd that averages about 40K a year in income, it is truly a slap in the face to the ones in paid attendance.

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