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Old 03-09-2016, 04:16 PM  
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Old 07-17-2020, 11:49 PM   #436
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I may be missing something somewhere, but Roaf is the only one of those three that came over in a trade. Schwartz and Holmes were signed as Free Agents.
You may be right...hard to believe the Browns would let him go for no compensation...other than a comp pick.

That makes the landing of Schwartz better than Roaf...
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:08 AM   #437
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Is Mitch Schwartz the best FA signing in Chiefs history? I'm pretty buzzed right now and not old, so I'm probably forgetting someone but he's gotta be at least top 3...
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:13 AM   #438
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Awesome news - Kollmann is doing a video on Mitch. Looking forward to this one.
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Is Mitch Schwartz the best FA signing in Chiefs history? I'm pretty buzzed right now and not old, so I'm probably forgetting someone but he's gotta be at least top 3...
Priest?

Was Lenny a FA?
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Old 07-18-2020, 01:01 AM   #440
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Priest?

Was Lenny a FA?
See, I knew I would forget some. Lenny would be definitely be better, and Priest was obviously incredible. I guess Mitch/Priest would have to be a matter of opinion. I personally would go Mitch because as good as PH was, and he was amazing, he benefited from some of the best OL's in Chiefs history. Mitch has been rock solid from day 1 as an NFL player.
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Old 07-18-2020, 07:53 AM   #441
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People hate on Dorsey....but this is up there with Holmes and Roaf as the best trade in Chiefs history.

Montana was good too...but he was just a hired mercenary at that point.
This is a ignorant post.

Par for the course I guess...
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People hate on Dorsey....but this is up there with Holmes and Roaf as the best trade in Chiefs history.

Montana was good too...but he was just a hired mercenary at that point.
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Is Mitch Schwartz the best FA signing in Chiefs history? I'm pretty buzzed right now and not old, so I'm probably forgetting someone but he's gotta be at least top 3...
I thought so but Tyrann Matheiu and Priest Holmes are right there with him in that discussion.
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This is a ignorant post.

Par for the course I guess...
Glad to see you took time away from going to bars and beating up random people....

Careful who call you ignorant...****ing primitive, emotionally unstable ape-man.
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Is Mitch Schwartz the best FA signing in Chiefs history? I'm pretty buzzed right now and not old, so I'm probably forgetting someone but he's gotta be at least top 3...
Lenny, Priest, McGlockton, Anders, Saleuamua, Lowery, Hasty, Roaf, Richardson, Waters, Allen, just to name a few....
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Again, not counting trades or contract extensions, this is the best free agent signing we've had in the modern Chiefs era, I believe.

When Priest first signed with us, he made jack shit, and while we were signing him to be our primary starting RB (not in a committee, either) I don't think we were expecting him to be Marshall Faulk-level good. Maybe Dick Vermeil did, because he had that kind of faith in players and people, but I doubt Carl did, either. At the very least, the rest of the league wasn't expecting it, especially the Ravens who drafted his replacement and let him walk.

Mitchell Schwartz was already considered to be a top 5 RT at that point in his young career. We got him for 5 years and $33 million in 2016-- at the time basically the going price for a very good guard. We got an elite player of greater position importance on the line for very good guard money. And we did it by stealing him away at the last minute from a shit **** franchise even though they were prepared to pay more.

I think the nod has to go to Schwartz in that case. It was the circumstances of how we acquired him, what we paid according to what he could have and probably would have received from other teams, and what he's done for the team in his longevity of play (and continues to do so).

It was like that was the signing that changed everything for this OL. You don't usually think of a RT as the catalyst for propelling an OL into elite play, but that's basically what happened. RT was ALWAYS the weakest part of our line for the past 10 seasons, and no matter what kind of quality players we had elsewhere on the line, it was like we knew it would be mediocre because we just couldn't seem to fix that hole (nor did we seem to try too hard). Once we got Schwartz, we saw greatly improved play from Fisher and LDT. Hell, we've still got that nagging LG hole that seemingly only ever gets filled if a random 1-year vet like Jeff Allen or Wisniewski takes over mid-season. But that's just never a big deal for us, nor do I consider it a big deal now.
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Is Mitch Schwartz the best FA signing in Chiefs history? I'm pretty buzzed right now and not old, so I'm probably forgetting someone but he's gotta be at least top 3...
I dunno...Priest Holmes was pretty damn good.
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It would be hard to say that he's not. Priest could be argued to be a product of that system and o-line. Whereas Mitch is part of what defines this system and o-line, along with Fish. He's not here (they're not here), we probably aren't in back-to-back AFCG's, we don't win a Superbowl, and Mahomes probably looks much more...human.

In this day and age, with teams stacking their rosters with outside rushers, you have to be good on the bookends, and we're as good as anybody. You saw that when Fish went out last year and Cam Irving looked like I-65 reborn. Who else can leave both their tackles unprotected? Who else could give Mahomes the kind of time he needs to be Mahomes? Nobody else in the league can hang behind center and float around for 8 or 10 seconds waiting for a play to open up. It's part because he's who he is, obviously, but it's also in large part because his line allows him to do it. And nobody is more key to that than the guys on the outside, and with his ability to stay on the field (unlike Fish last year...) nobody has done it better than Mitch, and he's done it week after week against the best pass rushers the NFL has to offer, without chips or help from backs.

So, yeah, i think it's safe to say the back-to-back all pro is probably the best free agent signing in team history.
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