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Old 01-07-2012, 11:59 AM   #1
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I literally laughed reading this. My God.
In years one and two, Haley was an average game manager. He wasn't bad. Anyone who says he was bad is just nitpicking.

The wheels didn't come off until this year. But I think there were extenuating circumstances.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:59 AM   #2
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In years one and two, Haley was an average game manager. He wasn't bad. Anyone who says he was bad is just nitpicking.

The wheels didn't come off until this year. But I think there were extenuating circumstances.
Yeah, the best coaches in the league often send Brodie Croyle out to fake a punt from their own 20.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:00 PM   #3
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Yeah, the best coaches in the league often send Brodie Croyle out to fake a punt from their own 20.
They also have FB's throwing 40 yards downfield to QB's.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:10 PM   #4
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Yeah, the best coaches in the league often send Brodie Croyle out to fake a punt from their own 20.
That's not game management. That's about a coach who likes to take chances. He knew what he wanted to do and he did it.

And by the way, isn't it obvious we did more of that stuff when the team was struggling to be competitive? We didn't do that in 2010. We didn't do that stuff during our winning streak. We ran more of those high risk plays with 2009 cassel and 2011 palko.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #5
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That's not game management. That's about a coach who likes to take chances. He knew what he wanted to do and he did it.

And by the way, isn't it obvious we did more of that stuff when the team was struggling to be competitive? We didn't do that in 2010. We didn't do that stuff during our winning streak. We ran more of those high risk plays with 2009 cassel and 2011 palko.
He was a ****ing fool. 4th and 1 at the 36? FG....followed by an onside kick.

He didn't have a ****ing plan because he didn't have a ****ing clue.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:14 PM   #6
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He was a ****ing fool. 4th and 1 at the 36? FG....followed by an onside kick.

He didn't have a ****ing plan because he didn't have a ****ing clue.
His 2:00 drills were the most painful I've ever seen in 30+ years of being a football fan.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #7
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His 2:00 drills were the most painful I've ever seen in 30+ years of being a football fan.
Herm was right there too... What did we do to deserve the last two coaches?
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:19 PM   #8
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True, but the difference is that under Herm, the 2:00 drill didn't matter most of the time, because we were already getting whipped at the end of the half or game.

Haley's mismanagement of the game and clock in those situations cost us momentum, and some close games ultimately.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #9
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His 2:00 drills were the most painful I've ever seen in 30+ years of being a football fan.
But he's going to go on to be a great HC somewhere else. .
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He was a ****ing fool. 4th and 1 at the 36? FG....followed by an onside kick.

He didn't have a ****ing plan because he didn't have a ****ing clue.
He's young but talented. He was only given 2.5 seasons to figure shit out about being a head coach. He just needed more time. The questionable gameday decisions would have gone away eventually.
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He's young but talented. He was only given 2.5 seasons to figure shit out about being a head coach. He just needed more time. The questionable gameday decisions would have gone away eventually.
I watch a lot of Atlanta, and I can tell you Mike Smith didn't make anything resembling the mistakes Haley made for three years for even his first season.

And 90+% of the folks here laughed when the Falcons hire Smith.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:31 PM   #12
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I watch a lot of Atlanta, and I can tell you Mike Smith didn't make anything resembling the mistakes Haley made for three years for even his first season.

And 90+% of the folks here laughed when the Falcons hire Smith.
Smith also has had talented teams who don't need to take huge gambles to win. As i said before, when the team is winning and consistently competitive in games, I can only remember less than a handful of times Haley took these kinds of enormous risks. We saw it a bunch in 2009. And I don't think it's a coincidence we started to see it again when Tyler palko started playing.

I think he knew that in many cases, the only way to win games was to gamble. Because he simply didn't have the talent to win the traditional way.
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He's young but talented. He was only given 2.5 seasons to figure shit out about being a head coach. He just needed more time. The questionable gameday decisions would have gone away eventually.
We all need more time, dude.

I think Haley has a place in the league, but I simply do not believe he has the mental makeup to be a successful HC. He's far, far too volatile.
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He was a ****ing fool. 4th and 1 at the 36? FG....followed by an onside kick.

He didn't have a ****ing plan because he didn't have a ****ing clue.
I liked Haley, but I thought he was a beaten man. You are correct in that criticism. He took risks his first two years, especially his first year, and got criticized (although anyone who is familiar with the 4th down literature knows Haley was right), and I think the criticism and/or Pioli made Haley gun shy. The guy just wasn't the same coach this year as he was his first year. His 4th down decisions this year were very strange. I think he Haley vacillated between trying not get fired, and saying **** it, I'm fired anyway.
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I liked Haley, but I thought he was a beaten man. You are correct in that criticism. He took risks his first two years, especially his first year, and got criticized (although anyone who is familiar with the 4th down literature knows Haley was right), and I think the criticism and/or Pioli made Haley gun shy. The guy just wasn't the same coach this year as he was his first year. His 4th down decisions this year were very strange. I think he Haley vacillated between trying not get fired, and saying **** it, I'm fired anyway.
I need to know what the **** was going on with Palko. If Haley was indeed playing this kid as a sort of "**** you" to Pioli, he is the single most abysmal HC in the history of the NFL because he essentially quit on his team but stuck around to rub salt in the wound.

Bobby Patrino thinks that's a gutless thing to do.
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