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Old 07-28-2014, 11:12 AM  
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Now there are American casualties.

Not in Gaza, and not on the ill-fated Malaysian airliner. Now there are American casualties in another war very far away so maybe, goddammit, somebody should start paying more attention to it.

Kent Brantly, 33, an American doctor who has been working in Liberia since October for the North Carolina-based aid organization Samaritan's Purse, is receiving intensive medical treatment after he was infected with Ebola, according to a spokeswoman for the group. Melissa Strickland said Brantly, who is married and has two children, was talking with his doctors and working on his computer while being treated. A second U.S. citizen, Nancy Writebol, also has tested positive for Ebola, Samaritan's Purse said. Writebol is employed by mission group SIM in Liberia and was helping a joint SIM/Samaritan's Purse team treating Ebola patients in Monrovia. Writebol is married with two children, the organization said. "Both of them tonight are in stable condition," Ken Isaacs, Samaritan Purse's vice president of programs and government relations, said Sunday. "But they are not out of the woods yet."

That's some serious Damien-at-Molokai hero stuff right there, still being at your computer while you're being treated for one of the most vicious diseases on the planet. Other medical professionals, alas, are not as lucky.

A Liberian government official said Sunday that one of that country's highest-profile doctors has died in what the World Health Organization (WHO) calls the largest recorded outbreak of the disease...The first Liberian doctor to die of the disease was identified as Samuel Brisbane. He was working as a consultant with the internal medicine unit at the country's largest hospital, the John F. Kennedy Memorial Medical Center in Monrovia. Brisbane, who once was a medical adviser to former Liberian President Charles Taylor, was taken to a treatment center on the outskirts of the capital after falling ill with Ebola and died there, said Tolbert Nyenswah, an assistant health minister. He said another doctor who had been working in Liberia's central Bong County also was being treated for Ebola at the same center where Brisbane died. The situation "is getting more and more scary," Nyenswah said.

Yes, you could say that. The disease is now in both Nigeria and Liberia, and not in the backwater places any more, either, but in the capital cities. The ones with millions of people. And airports.


Over the weekend, health officials in Nigeria raced to stop the spread of Ebola after a man sick with the disease arrived on a flight in Lagos, Africa's largest city with 21 million people. He later died. The man's ability to board an international flight raised new fears that other passengers could carry the disease beyond Africa because of weak passenger inspection and the fact that Ebola's initial symptoms can resemble those of other illnesses. Isaacs said in an interview that "where it gets really scary" is that the disease, which was previously seen only "in very remote, small villages in Africa" is now being contracted by people in the capital cities of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone. "Now the disease has been introduced into the big urban areas with millions of people," he said. "In the big cities, people can get on an airplane and fly out." Isaacs does not believe this outbreak his peaked. "I think the worst is yet to come," he said. "I hope I'm wrong."

Meanwhile, the local customs aren't helping a lot, either.

Koroma, 32, a resident of the densely populated Wellington district, had been admitted to an isolation ward while blood samples were tested for the virus, said Sidi Yahya Tunis, a health ministry spokesman. The results came back on Thursday. "The family of the patient stormed the hospital and forcefully removed her and took her away," Tunis said. "We are searching for her."

Jesus save us. I don't mean to sound like a cultural imperialist -- although I seriously doubt that the people in rural Sierra Leone are acting out of what they know about the Tuskegee experiments, or what happened in Guatemala in the 1940's -- but snatching an Ebola patient out of the hospital doesn't sound like a very good way to fight the disease, family networks notwithstanding. (The purloined patient eventually died.) This thing is one airplane flight away from being an international catastrophe, but there is no boom-boom, and without boom-boom, there is no news. However, you know, Americans are getting sick now. Hey, Wolf! Over here?
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:41 AM   #151
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No, No it's not.

Didn't say they had to remain in the middle of Africa. But there had to be a better option than flying them to the middle of the U.S.

middle of Africa or the middle of America ... yep, the only 2 options.


Take the doctors to them.

There has to be a more remote facility than gawd dam center of the U.S.

Even Hawaii would be better than the middle of America where an outbreak would be hard as hell to control. At least on Hawaii it's surrounded by water and semi contained. Had to be a more isolated option.
But didn't you know that the experimental serum could not be transported? Heck, the only transport they could find on such short notice was a Gulfstream G3 that was equipped to the gills with high tech medical equipment. How could they possibly bring quality treatment to the two Americans in Africa? /sarcasm
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Old 08-06-2014, 08:29 AM   #152
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No, No it's not.

Didn't say they had to remain in the middle of Africa. But there had to be a better option than flying them to the middle of the U.S.

middle of Africa or the middle of America ... yep, the only 2 options.


Take the doctors to them.

There has to be a more remote facility than gawd dam center of the U.S.

Even Hawaii would be better than the middle of America where an outbreak would be hard as hell to control. At least on Hawaii it's surrounded by water and semi contained. Had to be a more isolated option.
Why the freak out? Ebola will be here shortly and we need doctors to get vaccines made. They need patients with the virus to achieve this or most that catch Ebola will die. Why is this hard to understand?
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Old 08-06-2014, 11:37 AM   #153
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Old 08-06-2014, 11:44 AM   #154
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Disregard everything I've said in this thread.. I'm scared.

This.

There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of illegals with much more contagious diseases entering our country every day.

TB will have conquered the southwest before there are 5 ebola cases there...
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:50 PM   #155
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:55 PM   #156
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:11 AM   #157
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Well it turned out to be a good thing bringing those 2 Americans back to the states.

American Ebola Patients Have Been Released From Atlanta Hospital

This morning (Aug 21) there was a press conference outside of Emory University Hospital in Atlanta. Dr. Bruce Ribner, director of Emory’s Infectious Disease Unit, confirmed that the two Americans who had been receiving treatment for Ebola virus disease (EVD) had recovered from the illness. Dr. Kent Brantly (33) was discharged today and Nancy Writebol (59) was quietly released on Tuesday.

“After a rigorous and successful course of treatment and testing, the Emory Healthcare team has determined that both patients have recovered from the Ebola virus and can return to their families and community without concern for spreading this infection to others,” Ribner stated.

The pair had fallen ill while in Liberia while performing missionary work. While still in Africa, they both received an experimental serum called ZMapp that was made with antibodies derived from mice. Additionally, Brantly had received a transfusion of blood from a teenager who had treated for EVD earlier that summer, in an effort to pass along some antibodies.

Brantly and Writebol were transferred to Atlanta on August 2 and 5, respectively. They were treated in specialized isolation units where they received top notch care and were the subject of a great deal of research, so scientists can learn more about the effects of EVD in hopes of developing a better course of treatment.

Though the pair spurred dozens of headlines after receiving the experimental ZMapp, it has not been made clear if the drug had any effect on the recovery at all.

"Frankly, we do not know whether it helped them, whether it made no difference or whether it theoretically delayed their recovery,” Ribner said about the drug. Around 45% of people who have been sick in this outbreak have survived without the use of experimental medications and without being treated in a cutting-edge isolation facility like Emory. For those who are otherwise healthy enough, managing symptoms and maintaining hydration is enough to let the body fight the virus on its own.

The staff at Emory University Hospital as well as officials from the CDC would like to reiterate that these two do not pose a risk in transmitting EVD. Isolation protocols were strictly adhered to and extensive testing of blood and urine have revealed they are cleared of the infection.

Writebol did not attend this morning’s event. Instead, her husband had passed along a written statement that said though she was no longer infected with Ebola, she is still weak from the extended illness. She will continue to rest and recover privately with her family. Brantly addressed the crowd outside of the hospital during the press conference. He stated that he and his family would be going away to an undisclosed location for the next month so he could also rest and reconnect with his family, and he would not be speaking publicly about his illness until after that time. He also urged the public not to forget about those still fighting the outbreak in West Africa.

As of today, there have been 2473 suspected or confirmed cases of Ebola across Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone. A total of 1350 of those patients have died.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:13 AM   #158
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Well it turned out to be a good thing bringing those 2 Americans back to the states.

American Ebola Patients Have Been Released From Atlanta Hospital

This morning (Aug 21) there was a press conference outside of Emory University Hospital in Atlanta. Dr. Bruce Ribner, director of Emory’s Infectious Disease Unit, confirmed that the two Americans who had been receiving treatment for Ebola virus disease (EVD) had recovered from the illness. Dr. Kent Brantly (33) was discharged today and Nancy Writebol (59) was quietly released on Tuesday.

“After a rigorous and successful course of treatment and testing, the Emory Healthcare team has determined that both patients have recovered from the Ebola virus and can return to their families and community without concern for spreading this infection to others,” Ribner stated.

The pair had fallen ill while in Liberia while performing missionary work. While still in Africa, they both received an experimental serum called ZMapp that was made with antibodies derived from mice. Additionally, Brantly had received a transfusion of blood from a teenager who had treated for EVD earlier that summer, in an effort to pass along some antibodies.

Brantly and Writebol were transferred to Atlanta on August 2 and 5, respectively. They were treated in specialized isolation units where they received top notch care and were the subject of a great deal of research, so scientists can learn more about the effects of EVD in hopes of developing a better course of treatment.

Though the pair spurred dozens of headlines after receiving the experimental ZMapp, it has not been made clear if the drug had any effect on the recovery at all.

"Frankly, we do not know whether it helped them, whether it made no difference or whether it theoretically delayed their recovery,” Ribner said about the drug. Around 45% of people who have been sick in this outbreak have survived without the use of experimental medications and without being treated in a cutting-edge isolation facility like Emory. For those who are otherwise healthy enough, managing symptoms and maintaining hydration is enough to let the body fight the virus on its own.

The staff at Emory University Hospital as well as officials from the CDC would like to reiterate that these two do not pose a risk in transmitting EVD. Isolation protocols were strictly adhered to and extensive testing of blood and urine have revealed they are cleared of the infection.

Writebol did not attend this morning’s event. Instead, her husband had passed along a written statement that said though she was no longer infected with Ebola, she is still weak from the extended illness. She will continue to rest and recover privately with her family. Brantly addressed the crowd outside of the hospital during the press conference. He stated that he and his family would be going away to an undisclosed location for the next month so he could also rest and reconnect with his family, and he would not be speaking publicly about his illness until after that time. He also urged the public not to forget about those still fighting the outbreak in West Africa.

As of today, there have been 2473 suspected or confirmed cases of Ebola across Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone. A total of 1350 of those patients have died.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:26 AM   #160
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They're back in the states. Give Obama's death panels some time to work through the formalities.......
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:24 AM   #161
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don't be stupid

nobody ever said that we shouldn't help them


just that it would be better to help somewhere other than the middle of the continental united states

what part of that is so ****ing difficult to understand?
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:58 AM   #163
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:12 AM   #164
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don't be stupid

nobody ever said that we shouldn't help them


just that it would be better to help somewhere other than the middle of the continental united states

what part of that is so ****ing difficult to understand?
It was never hard to understand. It was simply the fact that there was never any danger and people were assured by medical personnel that there wasn't any danger. Yet some people couldn't understand or accept that no matter what, and just proceeded to irrationally lose their shit out of fear. I have little doubt that some idiots absolutely felt that we shouldn't help them.

Plus Atlanta isn't exactly the middle of the continental US.....
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:16 AM   #165
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nobody ever said that we shouldn't help them


just that it would be better to help somewhere other than the middle of the continental united states

what part of that is so ****ing difficult to understand?
What part of Ebola is hard to catch dont you understand?
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