Who hopes we lose out?

[Hammock Parties]

I'd lol and enjoy the #1 pick in every round, plus the smear on Alex Smith's career.

[wazu]

Just imagine the the linemen who will be available at #1.

[wazu]

Terrible poll options, by the way.

[tk13]

People have been saying this stuff since Vermeil was here. The team just needs to "bottom out" and get some high draft picks. That's how good teams do it! Everything will be fine then!

Now we sit here a decade later. Carl Peterson looks competent compared to what followed, this team has sucked for the better part of a decade. Meanwhile, good organizations like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Broncos, Seahawks all win without tanking every other year. But don't worry, we get that #1 pick, everything will be fixed.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by tk13

People have been saying this stuff since Vermeil was here. The team just needs to "bottom out" and get some high draft picks. That's how good teams do it! Everything will be fine then!

Now we sit here a decade later. Carl Peterson looks competent compared to what followed, this team has sucked for the better part of a decade. Meanwhile, good organizations like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Broncos, Seahawks all win without tanking every other year. But don't worry, we get that #1 pick, everything will be fixed.

5 teams that have something in common that is not shared with the Chiefs.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by jd1020

5 teams that have something in common that is not shared with the Chiefs.

Yeah, and not one of them spent a top 10 pick to get it. Why? Because they are competent organizations. They make good draft picks regardless of draft position.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, and not one of them spent a top 10 pick to get it. Why? Because they are competent organizations. They make good draft picks regardless of draft position.

You let me know when the Chiefs have the balls to do what those teams did without being in a situation like that Colts.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You let me know when the Chiefs have the balls to do what those teams did without being in a situation like that Colts.

They may never do it. I agree. It obviously makes you a miserable person, maybe you need a break from football. Or you need to buy the team from the current ownership group.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by tk13

People have been saying this stuff since Vermeil was here. The team just needs to "bottom out" and get some high draft picks. That's how good teams do it! Everything will be fine then!

Now we sit here a decade later. Carl Peterson looks competent compared to what followed, this team has sucked for the better part of a decade. Meanwhile, good organizations like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Broncos, Seahawks all win without tanking every other year. But don't worry, we get that #1 pick, everything will be fixed.

no, people have been saying we need to draft damn QBs, which we never do....losing is simply a means to that end, but our owners and fans are resolutely afraid of drafting QBs

we've done it the 'other' way exclusively for decades

steelers, ravens, packers and seahawks all draft QBs....which you know of course, but you need a straw man to complain about

[tk13]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

no, people have been saying we need to draft damn QBs, which we never do....losing is simply a means to that end, but our owners and fans are resolutely afraid of drafting QBs

we've done it the 'other' way exclusively for decades

steelers, ravens, packers and seahawks all draft QBs....which you know of course, but you need a straw man to complain about

What are you talking about? I have no issue with drafting a QB in the first round. I say go for it.

This thread is specifically about tanking the rest of the season to get a top 5 pick. You can still draft a QB in the first round without tanking and losing every game. Many good organizations don't do that, I just provided an example. I think it's a cheap cop out. I don't know what you just posted has to do with any of that.

Other than it's the beginning of a dialogue with the same group of whiny babies who are constantly on a 365 day period and complain about everything. I answered the question at the top of the thread. If you think it's impossible to have success in the NFL without accumulating top 10 picks, then bring it on, and we can have a discussion about it. But you don't want to do that. You just want to complain.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by tk13

What are you talking about? I have no issue with drafting a QB in the first round. I say go for it.

This thread is specifically about tanking the rest of the season to get a top 5 pick. You can still draft a QB in the first round without tanking and losing every game. Many good organizations don't do that, I just provided an example. I think it's a cheap cop out. I don't know what you just posted has to do with any of that.

Other than the beginning of a dialogue with the same group of whiny babies who are constantly on a 365 day period and complain about everything. I answered the question at the top of the thread. If you think it's impossible to have success in the NFL without accumulating top 10 picks, then bring it on, and we can have a discussion about it. But you don't want to do that. You just want to complain.

It's pretty obvious that the only way the Chiefs will ever draft one of the best QB prospects in a given year is to be the 2011-2012 Colts and have one sitting there that is head and shoulders above any other player in the draft.

Last year was a picture perfect opportunity to do something like the Packers. Picking 23 with a mediocre QB on his last year under contract with a QB that was being touted as a #1 pick years before the draft sitting there in Teddy Bridgewater. And what did they do? They picked a guy to replace one of two pro bowlers on the team.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It's pretty obvious that the only way the Chiefs will ever draft one of the best QB prospects in a given year is to be the 2011-2012 Colts and have one sitting there that is head and shoulders above any other player in the draft.

Last year was a picture perfect opportunity to do something like the Packers. Picking 23 with a mediocre QB on his last year under contract with a QB that was being touted as a #1 pick years before the draft sitting there in Teddy Bridgewater. And what did they do? They picked a guy to replace one of two pro bowlers on the team.

They clearly just do not share your assessment on the QB.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by tk13

People have been saying this stuff since Vermeil was here. The team just needs to "bottom out" and get some high draft picks. That's how good teams do it! Everything will be fine then!

Now we sit here a decade later. Carl Peterson looks competent compared to what followed, this team has sucked for the better part of a decade. Meanwhile, good organizations like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Broncos, Seahawks all win without tanking every other year. But don't worry, we get that #1 pick, everything will be fixed.

Precisely... The team doesn't need a #1 overall pick again, it needs to be run well over a period of several years. Teams that are run well don't have rebuilds or years where they tank.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by tk13

People have been saying this stuff since Vermeil was here. The team just needs to "bottom out" and get some high draft picks. That's how good teams do it! Everything will be fine then!

Now we sit here a decade later. Carl Peterson looks competent compared to what followed, this team has sucked for the better part of a decade. Meanwhile, good organizations like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Broncos, Seahawks all win without tanking every other year. But don't worry, we get that #1 pick, everything will be fixed.

The rebuild after Vermeil was absolutely necessary.

What the **** were we supposed to do? Jared Allen ****ing hated Carl and wanted out. Tony Gonzalez was just sick of losing and wanted out. Our HOF offensive line were all about to retire. We had no good players on defense, an aging and feeble QB, and dick else. Derrick Johnson wasn't even that good.

All we ****ing had was Larry Johnson, Dustin Colquitt (), and an unproven Dwayne Bowe and Tamba Hali.

Yeah, I'd say knocking that shit down was the way to go.

[jimidollar]

I'd root for losses if I thought there was hope of turning the franchise around. However, we have a piss poor draft history. I don't know what it is going to take to get this thing going in the right dfirection. There is no quick fix. It' s going to take years.