Cardinals ***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II*** - Page 9

**BigRedChief** · 06:41 PM

Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.

lcarus · 08-18-2014, 09:09 PM

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**** you Matheny you god damn one who sucks the penis piece of shit

O.city · 08-18-2014, 09:09 PM

Should have tried to get the Red Sox to include koji

kcpasco · 08-18-2014, 09:11 PM

Just keep running him back out there Mike. Especially when you have a guy like Neshek rotting in the pen.

kcpasco · 08-18-2014, 09:18 PM

Greenwood? Is a Neshek hurt or something?

**BigRedChief** · 08-18-2014, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Greenwood? Is a Neshek hurt or something?

Nesheck has pitched a lot recently.

**BigRedChief** · 08-18-2014, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Just keep running him back out there Mike. Especially when you have a guy like Neshek rotting in the pen.

How many times do we suffer through this BS. Our closer has lost it for whatever reason. We just keep running the struggling reliever out there because he is our "closer", he is "my guy". Izzy, Franklin, Mujica etc etc

Rosenthal can't locate the fastball. He has been riden too hard, something is hurt, whatever, you can't just say we play to win but you keep putting Rosenthal out there when the evidence is as clear that anyone can see there is an issue, a reason for concern.

If they are worried about upsetting the karma with moving Neshek to the 9th. Give Martinez a try in the 9th. He can usually keep it together and remain focused for one inning.

kcpasco · 08-18-2014, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

How many times do we suffer through this BS. Our closer has lost it for whatever reason. We just keep running the struggling reliever out there because he is our "closer", he is "my guy". Izzy, Franklin, Mujica etc etc

Rosenthal can't locate the fastball. He has been riden too hard, something is hurt, whatever, you can't just say we play to win but you keep putting Rosenthal out there when the evidence is as clear that anyone can see there is an issue, a reason for concern.

If they are worried about upsetting the karma with moving Neshek to the 9th. Give Martinez a try in the 9th. He can usually keep it together and remain focused for one inning.

Ya its almost to the point where I can't even watch Rosenthal at all because I know at least 2 base runners will get on and that's usually before 2 outs.

Pepe Silvia · 08-18-2014, 11:17 PM

Peralta-Big Respect

Rosenthal-Get ****ed

epitome1170 · 08-19-2014, 04:55 AM

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...83740fabf.html

In the aftermath of Trevor Rosenthal walking three of four hitters he faced in the ninth inning on Sunday, Matheny rather adamantly had said that the young righthander still was his closer.

So it was that Rosenthal was brought in to close out Monday’s game. But Rosenthal didn’t.

After striking out pinch hitter Chris Heisey in the ninth, Rosenthal, clinging to a 5-4 lead, walked Billy Hamilton on a close full-count pitch. Hamilton stole his 46th base and catcher A.J. Pierzynski’s throw sailed into center field, sending Hamilton to third.

With the Cardinals’ infield in, Jay Bruce knocked in his fourth run of the night with a double past Adams at first, and the game went to extra innings.

Matheny, assessing Rosenthal’s inning, said, “Actually it was not that bad. We just walked the wrong guy. You put that guy on base and we’re in straight defense mode, trying to figure out how to limit the damage.

“Obviously, the ball getting through is not part of the plan. He ended up continuing to make good pitches and got out of it and gave us a chance to keep going.

“But that wasn’t what he was looking for. Or us. If you give free bases, especially to a guy that’s a burner, you’re asking for trouble. And we had trouble.”

Matheny, asked if he had employed Rosenthal for the righthander to gain a shot of confidence, said, “I put him out there to get a save.”

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-19-2014, 07:26 AM

After Bruce doubled, the next ball was hammered into the gap, but Jay made probably his best defensive play of the year to snatch it.

Rosenthal didn't get unlucky. He walked a guy who never walks. He has the worst BB/9 of any closer in baseball and he gave up two more hard hit balls.

He's a ****ing bum right now, so get him out of there.

**BigRedChief** · 08-19-2014, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

After Bruce doubled, the next ball was hammered into the gap, but Jay made probably his best defensive play of the year to snatch it.

Rosenthal didn't get unlucky. He walked a guy who never walks. He has the worst BB/9 of any closer in baseball and he gave up two more hard hit balls.

He's a ****ing bum right now, so get him out of there.

He was not in trouble because of batted ball luck. GEEZZZ Matheny needs to pull it out of his ass.

bdj23 · 08-19-2014, 08:08 PM

This team just cannot get out of its own way.

**BigRedChief** · 08-19-2014, 09:08 PM

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This team just cannot get out of its own way.

They do have the 4th best record in the NL. So what do you think fans of the 5th - 16th teams are saying about their club?

O.city · 08-19-2014, 09:17 PM

Someone see if that shoe falls out of Descalso's ass.

O.city · 08-19-2014, 09:27 PM

Hamilton is basically the same reason Bourjos should get more PT in CF.

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epitome1170 CP's Resident S.E. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $9562460	http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...83740fabf.html In the aftermath of Trevor Rosenthal walking three of four hitters he faced in the ninth inning on Sunday, Matheny rather adamantly had said that the young righthander still was his closer. So it was that Rosenthal was brought in to close out Monday’s game. But Rosenthal didn’t. After striking out pinch hitter Chris Heisey in the ninth, Rosenthal, clinging to a 5-4 lead, walked Billy Hamilton on a close full-count pitch. Hamilton stole his 46th base and catcher A.J. Pierzynski’s throw sailed into center field, sending Hamilton to third. With the Cardinals’ infield in, Jay Bruce knocked in his fourth run of the night with a double past Adams at first, and the game went to extra innings. Matheny, assessing Rosenthal’s inning, said, “Actually it was not that bad. We just walked the wrong guy. You put that guy on base and we’re in straight defense mode, trying to figure out how to limit the damage. “Obviously, the ball getting through is not part of the plan. He ended up continuing to make good pitches and got out of it and gave us a chance to keep going. “But that wasn’t what he was looking for. Or us. If you give free bases, especially to a guy that’s a burner, you’re asking for trouble. And we had trouble.” Matheny, asked if he had employed Rosenthal for the righthander to gain a shot of confidence, said, “I put him out there to get a save.”
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