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Old 04-26-2017, 06:44 PM   Topic Starter
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1. Myles Garrett - Cleveland
2. Jamal Adams - San Francisco
3. Marshon Lattimore - Chicago
4. Leonard Fournette - Jacksonville
5. Mitchell Trubisky - Cleveland
6. OJ Howard - Jets
7. Solomon Thomas - Chargers
8. Christian McCaffrey - Carolina
9. Jonathan Allen - Cincinnati
10. Reuben Foster - Buffalo
11. Charles Harris - New Orleans
12. John Ross - Tennessee
13. Marlon Humphrey - Arizona
14. Mike Williams - Philadelphia
15. Derek Barnett - Indianapolis
16. Hassan Reddick - Baltimore
17. Takkarist McKinley - Washington
18. Adoree' Jackson - Tennessee
19. Malik Hooker - Tampa Bay
20. Ryan Ramczyk - Denver
21. Corey Davis - Detroit
22. TJ Watt - Miami
23. Garett Boles - Giants
24. Cam Robinson - Raiders
25. Deshaun Watson - Houston
26. Forrest Lamp - Seattle


27. Dalvin Cook - Chiefs


28. Tre'Davious White - Dallas
29. Alvin Kamara - Green Bay
30. Jordan Willis - Pittsburgh
31. Jabrill Peppers - Atlanta
32. Patrick Mahomes - Arizona



Cleveland trades with Tennessee to move up to 5th.
Tennessee gets their 12th. No other details.

Arizona trades from 45th to 32nd by trading their 3rd round pick.
New Orleans gets Arizona's 2nd round pick(45) & 3rd round pick(77).


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Old 04-26-2017, 07:06 PM   #2
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:11 PM   #3
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Dalvin Cook would impact the offense quite a bit, but with Mahomes still on the board, I'd be pretty disappointed in the pick.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:21 PM   #4
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Dalvin Cook would impact the offense quite a bit, but with Mahomes still on the board, I'd be pretty disappointed in the pick.
My 2 cents. Mahomes behind A Smith or behind C Palmer? This would ruin PM's future. Take the RB and work on CB, DE, ILB. Oline the rest of the way. This is not a QB driven draft. D Watson is already gone.
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:27 PM   #5
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My 2 cents. Mahomes behind A Smith or behind C Palmer? This would ruin PM's future. Take the RB and work on CB, DE, ILB. Oline the rest of the way. This is not a QB driven draft. D Watson is already gone.
My 2 cents. If it's Watson, trade up and get him.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:14 PM   #6
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yeah, i watched that and was just confused. i mean if that's all it takes for 'zona to get him, why wouldnt we take mahomes, then make that same trade for 32 for a 3rd (and of course our 2).

no brainer to me. don't think the draft points are right there, for one.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:16 PM   #7
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This is funny. He was my pick in the pick em thread.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:21 PM   #8
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Also live right now on ESPN2 is their draft. Adam Schefter picked Mahomes for us and got GONGED by Bill Polian. He hated that a playoff team would take such a longterm prospect.
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Every time I watch him, I can't help but think it's Jamaal Charles running the ball. Plays just like him...I mean, the pick would grow on me but this is a super deep RB class where a good player can be had in the mid to late rounds.

Cook has shoulder trouble, runs around with thugs and has fumbles too much for a first rounder.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:40 AM   #10
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Every time I watch him, I can't help but think it's Jamaal Charles running the ball. Plays just like him...I mean, the pick would grow on me but this is a super deep RB class where a good player can be had in the mid to late rounds.

Cook has shoulder trouble, runs around with thugs and has fumbles too much for a first rounder.
Make him a white guy with no dreds and you'd think he was Toby Gerhart. Same number of reps on the bench, much better explosion testing, absolutely wrecks cook in both the shuttle and the 3-cone. His 4.53 40 time was even comparable to Cooks 4.49.

Cook is a bad athlete for a runningback; I don't see how this keeps getting overlooked.

People are letting a guys visual similarities blind them to the fact that this guy couldn't hold Jamaal Charles jock. He's nowhere near the athlete Charles was. The agility, the balance and the explosion just isn't there.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:00 PM   #11
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Make him a white guy with no dreds and you'd think he was Toby Gerhart. Same number of reps on the bench, much better explosion testing, absolutely wrecks cook in both the shuttle and the 3-cone. His 4.53 40 time was even comparable to Cooks 4.49.

Cook is a bad athlete for a runningback; I don't see how this keeps getting overlooked.

People are letting a guys visual similarities blind them to the fact that this guy couldn't hold Jamaal Charles jock. He's nowhere near the athlete Charles was. The agility, the balance and the explosion just isn't there.

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Teams will strike gold with either of these two running backs
This is a debate between Dalvin Cook and Christian McCaffrey. Cook is one of the most complete running backs to come through the draft in a long time, while McCaffrey has the explosive, big-play ability. The Stanford product runs it between the tackles, contributes in the screen gam and plays the slot as a receiver. All of this makes him a dangerous player in the right offense. Both of these players can contribute on an NFL team in Week 1.

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Talent-wise, Dalvin Cook tops my draft board -- even above Garrett
Even before Myles Garrett, the best prospect in this draft class is Dalvin Cook. Many players will go before Cook because of his off-the-field concerns, but he's a sure-fire talent. If you move everything aside and look purely at football talent, he might be the No. 1 player off the board.
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This is a debate between Dalvin Cook and Christian McCaffrey. Cook is one of the most complete running backs to come through the draft in a long time, while McCaffrey has the explosive, big-play ability. The Stanford product runs it between the tackles, contributes in the screen gam and plays the slot as a receiver. All of this makes him a dangerous player in the right offense. Both of these players can contribute on an NFL team in Week 1.

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Even before Myles Garrett, the best prospect in this draft class is Dalvin Cook. Many players will go before Cook because of his off-the-field concerns, but he's a sure-fire talent. If you move everything aside and look purely at football talent, he might be the No. 1 player off the board.
Heath Evans is the single dumbest person on this entire planet of Earth.

His endorsement of Cook should be all that any of you need to hate that pick.

A RB with lineman athleticism and Evans says he's a #1 overall player. What a moron.
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Also live right now on ESPN2 is their draft. Adam Schefter picked Mahomes for us and got GONGED by Bill Polian. He hated that a playoff team would take such a longterm prospect.
Polian is an arrogant ****bag. He fell assholes over elbows into a HOF QB who if he was half a talent evaluator he'd have built a team that would get to Super Bowls. But nope. He was too ****ing stupid to fire Dungy, draft defense, or do anything else a capable GM could do.

Finally he fell ass backwards into a SB win so he can act like a ****ing jerk because he engineered a team that won it all.

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Make him a white guy with no dreds and you'd think he was Toby Gerhart. Same number of reps on the bench, much better explosion testing, absolutely wrecks cook in both the shuttle and the 3-cone. His 4.53 40 time was even comparable to Cooks 4.49.

Cook is a bad athlete for a runningback; I don't see how this keeps getting overlooked.

People are letting a guys visual similarities blind them to the fact that this guy couldn't hold Jamaal Charles jock. He's nowhere near the athlete Charles was. The agility, the balance and the explosion just isn't there.
So.....Trent Richardson?
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So.....Trent Richardson?
Nah - Richardson actively avoided holes in the line. I've never seen anyone better at taking a 7 yard gain and turning it into a rugby scrum at the LOS. Trent Richardson was what you'd get if you took Dalvin Cook's athleticism and gave him Knile Davis's vision.

And I'll be honest - I missed on Trent Richardson BADLY. I really thought he'd be better than he was. He was yet another guy that pushed me further down the 'no RBs in the first round' road. And unlike Cook, Richardson actually demonstrated a ton of power in college but because he couldn't get moving he could never show it in the pros.

Richardson is the worst case scenario for Fournette.

I do not think Cook will be actively bad because he does appear to have nice vision and good hands. I just think he'll be forgettable. He'll be somewhere in that Melvin Gordon tier of RBs; a 3.8-4 YPC guy who can chip in another 40 receptions for 350 yards.

I look at Dalvin Cook and ask myself if there's anything that I see to suggest that he's a better player than Isaiah Crowell and my answer is no. Crowell went undrafted, gents.

You do not spend a 1st round pick on a RB. You just don't.
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Nah - Richardson actively avoided holes in the line. I've never seen anyone better at taking a 7 yard gain and turning it into a rugby scrum at the LOS. Trent Richardson was what you'd get if you took Dalvin Cook's athleticism and gave him Knile Davis's vision.

And I'll be honest - I missed on Trent Richardson BADLY. I really thought he'd be better than he was. He was yet another guy that pushed me further down the 'no RBs in the first round' road. And unlike Cook, Richardson actually demonstrated a ton of power in college but because he couldn't get moving he could never show it in the pros.

Richardson is the worst case scenario for Fournette.

I do not think Cook will be actively bad because he does appear to have nice vision and good hands. I just think he'll be forgettable. He'll be somewhere in that Melvin Gordon tier of RBs; a 3.8-4 YPC guy who can chip in another 40 receptions for 350 yards.

I look at Dalvin Cook and ask myself if there's anything that I see to suggest that he's a better player than Isaiah Crowell and my answer is no. Crowell went undrafted, gents.

You do not spend a 1st round pick on a RB. You just don't.
Unless, of course, you're wanting that fifth year of control.

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