Brady v. NFL: No Settlement; Judge Berman to Decide

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

And the Pats four losses while they hand Brady four checks, and that might be karma in action...

Jimmy Garoppolo played great in the preseason. He looks like he could handle the game should Brady still be suspended. It wouldn't be bad outcome if he won all four of the first games or even three. The haters would completely meltdown.

Even if the Judge sides with the NFL he could still deliver a blistering rebuke to the NFL.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Jimmy Garoppolo played great in the preseason. He looks like he could handle the game should Brady still be suspended. It wouldn't be bad outcome if he won all four of the first games or even three. The haters would completely meltdown.

Even if the Judge sides with the NFL he could still deliver a blistering rebuke to the NFL.

Because playing part of 3 PRESEASON games means he's ready for the regular season... I PRAY we get the chance to find out.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by TEX

Because playing part of 3 PRESEASON games means he's ready for the regular season... I PRAY we get the chance to find out.

No I know the preseason isn't the true test. Still, it's not a bad thing to see him play due to Brady's age.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by TEX

Because playing part of 3 PRESEASON games means he's ready for the regular season... I PRAY we get the chance to find out.

That sounds about as stupid as our fanbase when it comes to Daniels.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

That sounds about as stupid as our fanbase when it comes to Daniels.

I think not, even though Daniels has only started two regular season games, he's been in the league 3 X as long and has a greater body of work. No? Pay more attention to the last sentence. That's the main thing.

[GloryDayz]

I say ban them. Hell I don't say that about Donk fans, but this is different. That team, and their fans, need to be marginalized at every possible turn.

[BucEyedPea]

[CanadaKC]

Leave all the legal jargon out of it, and all the "Free Brady" idiots…and Brady is guilty as sin. Case closed.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

Leave all the legal jargon out of it, and all the "Free Brady" idiots…and Brady is guilty as sin. Case closed.

I almost be willing to bet that the Judge doesn't give a single shit whether Brady is guilty or not.

Doesn't care about the negotiated legal document(CBA) that the union is trying to cheat around either.

When the NFL and NFLPA negotiated the CBA you can be assured that the NFLPA got something in return for the commissioners extra power. Now the union is trying to use the legal system to take the power back without exchanging anything for it.


Legal system just pisses me off lately, judges getting involved instead of just following the law and making a judgement. douchebags.

[Garcia Bronco]

This is all bullshit and bluster. There is nothing that happens to the Patriot managed balls that Brady doesn't want. He's been cheating for years. McDaniels is a known cheater and so is BB. Regardless of what comes of this mess...that will be the story of the Patriots. Enjoy.

[BucEyedPea]

I'm surprised to see you indulging in sweeping generalizations based on innuendo or whispering campaigns with no facts to back up Brady cheating for years. I can see McDaniels though.

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

This is all bullshit and bluster. There is nothing that happens to the Patriot managed balls that Brady doesn't want. He's been cheating for years. McDaniels is a known cheater and so is BB. Regardless of what comes of this mess...that will be the story of the Patriots. Enjoy.

Former Quarterback and QB coach Chris Simms claimed BB is a real stickler on the rules, knows them better than a lawyer and has stopped players from participating in anything that can be construed as cheating even if they just bet between themselves.

Simms worked briefly for Bill; says Bill is a stickler for rules and very prideful about his job and sticking to the rulebook. Says Bill does everything by the book since the camera stuff happened. Says a lot of other teams were doing it and that Bill really only did it just to get back at the Jets for doing it when they were told not to, hence the Mangini ratting him out stuff

-Says that what Bill did may not have been against the rules anyway. The memo was sent out not to film but the actual rule didn't totally say that Bill couldn't film where he did. Simms still says it was wrong for Belichick to ignore the memo.

-Calls Belichick brilliant

[Amnorix]

Actually, FWIW, the real reason I came here -- over 12 years ago now -- was to engage in debates in what now is the DC forum. Back then it wasn't really a separate forum. I didn't love or hate the Chiefs, and this seemed like a lively board, and the political viewpoints were very different from mine, so here I landed.

I note that I am much less liberal than I was then, and also less active in the DC Forum. But I have no problem arguing with alot of people, and holding a minority position. That's really why I came here in the first place.

Much to your dismay, apparently.

But you're a n00b, so who cares about you.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Actually, FWIW, the real reason I came here -- over 12 years ago now -- was to engage in debates in what now is the DC forum. Back then it wasn't really a separate forum. I didn't love or hate the Chiefs, and this seemed like a lively board, and the political viewpoints were very different from mine, so here I landed.

I note that I am much less liberal than I was then, and also less active in the DC Forum. But I have no problem arguing with alot of people, and holding a minority position. That's really why I came here in the first place.

Much to your dismay, apparently.

But you're a n00b, so who cares about you.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Actually, FWIW, the real reason I came here -- over 12 years ago now -- was to engage in debates in what now is the DC forum. Back then it wasn't really a separate forum. I didn't love or hate the Chiefs, and this seemed like a lively board, and the political viewpoints were very different from mine, so here I landed.

I note that I am much less liberal than I was then, and also less active in the DC Forum. But I have no problem arguing with alot of people, and holding a minority position. That's really why I came here in the first place.

Much to your dismay, apparently.

But you're a n00b, so who cares about you.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

It's entirely possible Brady said "as low as possible" or whatever, without saying "hey, needle the balls after the refs clear them".

In one scenario (where Brady knows) it's plausible deniability. In another (where he doesn't know), the ball boys go one step too far getting him what they think he wants. I think either possibility is very possible.

But everyone assumes the first, so Brady's reputation is trashed, even though he may honestly have never known or thought that they would needle the balls AFTER the refs approved them.

Whatever. I'm done arguing his innocence, or lack thereof. Nobody is changing their mind on that at this point.

This argument would be more convincing if Tom Brady hadn't initially acted like he had no idea what it means to deflate a football. It was exactly like Hillary Clinton's response when asked if she had wiped her email server. She said "You mean with a cloth?"