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Old 11-15-2015, 11:01 AM  
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Will the Big X be left out of the playoff again this year?

The Big X as we know has been hamstrung by not having a conference championship game and by only having 10 teams, and with Baylor's loss this weekend, the Big X now has only one undefeated team left - Oklahoma State, who is due to face two top 10 teams in the next two weeks.

Will the Big X be without an argument to put a team in the playoff again this season, when they end up with multiple 1-loss teams and no way to differentiate them?
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:28 PM   #31
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There is a lot of football to be played so I am not going to debate one way or the other


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Everyone forgets that Ohio State had a loss to a mediocre team last year and ended up being the best team in the country by a mile.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:28 PM   #32
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Would any of us be surprised if the Big XII(-4, +2) gets left out? If Oklahoma DOES make it with a terrible loss to a god awful Texas on their resume then it's time to start criticizing the selection process, especially considering what other one loss teams (and possibly some two loss teams) would be left out.

If they DON'T make it in this year, I fully expect them to make a full court push to getting schools like Houston and Louisville into the conference.
Didn't seem to bother the committee last year as they put OSU in who lost to a mediocre VT team.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:31 PM   #33
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There is a lot of football to be played so I am not going to debate one way or the other


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Everyone forgets that Ohio State had a loss to a mediocre team last year and ended up being the best team in the country by a mile.
Exactly. Alabama and OU are better than earlier in the year.

We will see. Lots of football left.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:32 PM   #34
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Didn't seem to bother the committee last year as they put OSU in who lost to a mediocre VT team.
...and subsequently beat 3 ranked teams, won 11 games in a row, and won their conference championship before the committee made that decision.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:34 PM   #35
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I wouldn't be surprised at all. One good school, a trio of second tier teams and a bunch of really bad squads. I'm not sure anyone other than Oklahoma would even finish in the top half of the SEC and I think OSU/Baylor/TCU would each lose 3-4 conference games in the Big 10 or Pac 12. Of course that's just my opinion and really irrelevant to the argument. Sticking with wins and losses Oklahoma might have a shot with 1 loss. If Oklahoma State manages to go undefeated and get in, they'll get their ass handed to them, but they'll have gotten in. I don't think anybody else has a realistic shot. My guess is that OU gets in. Whether they deserve it or not is arguable, but they'll have beaten two more ranked teams if they get through the next few weeks.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:35 PM   #36
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Didn't seem to bother the committee last year as they put OSU in who lost to a mediocre VT team.


Let the Ohio State hate flow.

Come on, lets hear you cry about their weak schedule that was made years ago.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:36 PM   #37
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Oklahoma got their shit pushed in by an awful Texas team

No ****ing way

Plus they will lose again so it won't matter
Did you watch the game or just see the final score?

OU slept walked until the 4th quarter; then it was too late.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:37 PM   #38
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...and subsequently beat 3 ranked teams, won 11 games in a row, and won their conference championship before the committee made that decision.
Yes, but they had the worst loss of the potential playoff teams last year. A one loss Big 12 team can make the same case.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:38 PM   #39
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Let the Ohio State hate flow.

Come on, lets hear you cry about their weak schedule that was made years ago.
They proved themselves but that doesn't mean you can't find fault with the committee's reasoning .
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:38 PM   #40
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...and subsequently beat 3 ranked teams, won 11 games in a row, and won their conference championship before the committee made that decision.
They beat 1 ranked team during the season, and smoked a decent Wisconsin team to get in the tourney.

We aren't discussing who will win the championship, but who has a shot getting in the hunt.


OU has a shot to beat 3 high-ranked opponents at the end of the season, which "on paper" appears just as impressive than OhSt going into the tourney.

They probably won't pull it off, though.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:44 PM   #41
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It is harder to win a 10 team conference than a 12, 14, or 16 team conference. You don't skip teams in a 10 team conference like you do in the others. Particularly when those conferences with more teams only play 8 conference games and can load up on four cupcakes every year.
No, but you have to two best teams in the division battle it out when it counts to get into the playoff.

No teams that do not have a conference or a championship game should be allowed into the the playoffs until it expands to eight teams.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:45 PM   #42
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No teams that do not have a conference or a championship game should be allowed into the the playoffs until it expands to eight teams.


Even when they have already "Battled it out" once before?
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:46 PM   #43
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No, but you have to two best teams in the division battle it out when it counts to get into the playoff.

No teams that do not have a conference or a championship game should be allowed into the the playoffs until it expands to eight teams.
In a ten team conference though, if you play 9 conference games you play everybody. You don't get to feast on a weak schedule like Florida is doing this year.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:51 PM   #44
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In a ten team conference though, if you play 9 conference games you play everybody. You don't get to feast on a weak schedule like Florida is doing this year.
Florida is unlikely to get in unless they win their conference championship.

That's the function of the conference championship. If there are any pretenders who make it there, adding another game onto the end of the schedule against the next best team in the conference, even if you've already played them, makes you prove it.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:55 PM   #45
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There is not a chance on earth that they put the Big XII winner in over Notre Dame. You better hope one of these four top teams loses.
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