Chiefs Nick Jacob's 53 man Roster Prediction - Page 5

**The Franchise** · 08-07-2014, 12:35 PM

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Quarterbacks (3)

1. Alex Smith
2. Tyler Bray
3. Aaron Murray

The Chiefs have a big decision to make at this position. Do they get the next wave (Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray) ready for the future? Or keep the expensive veteran (Chase Daniel) in 2014? I say the former. Bray has had an impressive camp. He needs to take the next step in his development with the team. Murray is a similar quarterback to Daniel but he needs reps in this offense. The only way that happens is if he's on the roster.

Running Back (4)

1. Jamaal Charles
2. Knile Davis
3. De'Anthony Thomas
4. Joe McKnight

The top two are set. Thomas is going to be utilized in a multitude of ways. The Chiefs are going to need their fourth back to be able to step in. McKnight, who started camp on the PUP list and lkely won't play Thursday night, is an established veteran with good speed. He also would be a very good contributor on special teams.

Fullback (1)

1. Anthony Sherman

Sherman came to camp in great shape and has picked up where he left off in 2013.

Wide Receivers (6)

1. Dwayne Bowe
2. Donnie Avery
3. Kyle Williams
4. Junior Hemingway
5. Albert Wilson
6. Frankie Hammond

Avery has had a steady camp with some solid catches but hasn't been threatened by anyone for his roster spot. Some thought AJ Jenkins could be that guy but it's been Kyle Williams who has pushed Jenkins. Hemingway started camp out on a strong note but sustained a hamstring injury and hasn't seen the field since the last week of July. Hemingway, an exceptional gunner on special teams, was the featured slot receiver during OTAs. Wilson has picked up where he left off in spring practices. The undrafted free agent out of Georgia State has been the primary target among the quarterbacks. Hammond is having an impressive camp, too. He has shown an ability to get separation off the line and add some much needed speed to the roster.

Tight End (3)

1. Anthony Fasano
2. Travis Kelce
3. Demetrius Harris

Harris provides the most upside of the remaining tight ends. He hasn't had the same impact in camp that he did in spring practices but there isn't much competition left.

Offensive Line (8)

1. Eric Fisher
2. Jeff Allen
3. Rodney Hudson
4. Zach Fulton
5. Donald Stephenson
6. Eric Kush
7. Ryan Harris
8. Ricky Henry

Fulton has been the surprise of camp showing a good base and not looking lost on the field. Kush is ready from a strength perspective to push for a job over the next year. He got big. Harris, signed this offseason, had a shaky start but has steadily improved with each practice. The late addition to the roster has provided the team a serviceable swing tackle with solid technique. Henry, another player who could provide solid depth, has seen looks with the first offense in the past week. I would not be surprised to see the Chiefs look for additional depth on the waiver wire.

Defensive End (4)

1. Mike DeVito
2. Allen Bailey
3. Jaye Howard
4. Mike Catapano

DeVito has looked noticeably quicker in training camp. He could give the defense an additional jolt in sub packages. Bailey is clearly stronger and had some solid bull rushers. Howard has been a pleasant surprise at end, dominating at times at the line of scrimmage. Catapano, stronger this year, has missed a week of camp with a flu virus.

Nose Tackle (2)

1. Dontari Poe
2. Vance Walker

Walker provides versatility along the defensive line. He is capable of playing all three positions and sub packages.

Outside Linebacker (5)

1. Justin Houston
2. Tamba Hali
3. Dee Ford
4. Josh Martin
5. Frank Zombo

Houston showed up to camp in great shape and looked even stronger this season. Ford has a quick first step but it's going to take time. He has to learn some counter moves and how to disengage from blocks in run support. Martin spent the offseason training with Hali and it has showed. The Columbia alumnus has showed a quick burst off the edge. Zombo, who started five games last year, gives the Chiefs serviceable depth and a solid special team performer.

Inside Linebacker (4)

1. Derrick Johnson
2. Joe Mays
3. James Michael-Johnson
4. Josh Mauga

The surprise on this list is likely Mauga. Nico Johnson continues to get buried on the depth chart. The Chiefs keep finding competition to put in front of him. Johnson struggles in pass coverage and will need to make an impact in the preseason games or he will find himself on the waiver wire.

Cornerback (5)

1. Marcus Cooper
2. Ron Parker
3. Sean Smith
4. Chris Owens
5. Phillip Gaines

Cooper has become the No. 1 corner on this roster. Parker has maintained control of the second spot since taking it over this offseason from Sean Smith, who has had a rocky offseason. Owens gives the Chiefs a starting nickel corner who brings an attitude and has made his presence felt. Gaines is going to take time in adjusting the NFL wide receivers.

Free Safety (2)

1. Husain Abdullah
2. Malcolm Bronson

Bronson has forced his way onto this roster. He gives you versatility as a nickel corner, safety and / or special teams contributor.

Strong Safety (3)

1. Eric Berry
2. Jerron McMillian
3. Daniel Sorenson

McMillian has been in good position during camp. Sorenson has been forcing his way onto the roster with his pass breakups and interceptions in camp lately. He also can be a good special teams contributor.

Specialists (3)

1. Dustin Colquitt
2. Cairo Santos
3. Thomas Gafford

Santos has shown a strong leg in camp and Ryan Succop knows the pressure is there.

Injured Reserve

1. Sanders Commings

Commings has had an unlucky stint in Kansas City. The fracture makes his fourth injury in the past year.

Practice Squad

1. Mark Harrison
2. Dominque Hamilton
3. Vernon Kearney
4. Charcandrick West
5. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
6. Darryl Surgent
7. Jordan Campbell
8. DeMarcus Van Dyke

These are eight players capable of making the roster but need time to develop.

Harrison has promise at the receiver position but a hamstring injury has put him on the back burner.
Hamilton has strength and a solid bull rush on the defensive line.
Kearney could potentially make the roster if there is an injury.
West is a speedy back that needs time to develop but could push for a spot next season.
Duvernay-Tardif has a great deal of technique work ahead of him. His base is off balance and his hands don't come up quick enough on his punch.
Surgent has been consistent in camp. He just isn't getting the same amount of opportunities that Wilson and Hammond have.
Campbell is an intriguing project but needs time to adjust to the new position.
Van Dyke allows the organization to have an additional corner to develop.

KCrockaholic · 08-07-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If Abdullah is primarily the deep safety, we're not "fine". He's an upgrade over Lewis for sure but he lacks high-end range. With our corners, we really need FLAWLESS deep safety play. Hopefully they're not opposed to putting Berry back there more...

That's our difference here. I don't expect flawless. There's not a Earl Thomas available. Abdullah is serviceable. I expect average to above average from Abdullah this year.

KCrockaholic · 08-07-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

again, huge leap.

IF ............. adbullah turns out to be a 'fine' NFL starter i will be surprised.

He could, but i won't believe it until i see it.

I think it's more likely that Berry turns into a good free safety and somebody else steps in at SS (Sorenson?) and that's a long shot.

Ok.

He'll surprise you a bit this year then. Maybe he's one of those guys that people don't know enough about. I feel like I've seen enough of him between Minnesota and his solid play last year to feel confident in him.

htismaqe · 08-07-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

That's our difference here. I don't expect flawless. There's not a Earl Thomas available. Abdullah is serviceable. I expect average to above average from Abdullah this year.

With our corners, that's not going to be good enough. Abdullah is a part-time starter but more complete as a backup.

If he's the deep man, we're going to get torched. Repeatedly.

EDIT: His best season in Minnesota was a SS.

KCrockaholic · 08-07-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

With our corners, that's not going to be good enough. Abdullah is a part-time starter but more complete as a backup.

If he's the deep man, we're going to get torched. Repeatedly.

EDIT: His best season in Minnesota was a SS.

We're using him in the box on those 3 safety nickel packages during camp if it makes you feel better.

htismaqe · 08-07-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

We're using him in the box on those 3 safety nickel packages during camp if it makes you feel better.

That will help a lot. I haven't been following camp that close.

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2014, 04:38 PM

God damn we have the worst CBs in football.

htismaqe · 08-07-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

God damn we have the worst CBs in football.

I wish I could strongly disagree with you.

John Dope · 08-07-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

He's clueless if he thinks Daniel, who Reid targeted in free agency just one year ago and signed to a big backup contract and played well in his start last season, is going to be shipped out for a guy like Bray - who all reports said lacked maturity and couldn't even learn the playbook last year.

If anyone is leaving it's Bray, but more likely none of them are leaving but someone is going to the PS>

Yep, Daniel is going to be the #2. There is no question about that.

KCrockaholic · 08-07-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

God damn we have the worst CBs in football.

Wait until Dorsey does his 1 week til opening day overhaul of random ass guys.

**The Franchise** · 08-07-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Wait until Dorsey does his 1 week til opening day overhaul of random ass guys.

We're not #1 on the waiver wire so it's going to be tougher for him to work his magic.

KCrockaholic · 08-07-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We're not #1 on the waiver wire so it's going to be tougher for him to work his magic.

Well dammit.

Last year we found our two corners doing this trick. I was hoping we'd find WRs this year.

milkman · 08-07-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We're not #1 on the waiver wire so it's going to be tougher for him to work his magic.

Wonder how many more times we are going to be telling these dumbasses this same damn thing?

I know I've probably posted it 4 or 5 times, and seen it posted by others.

milkman · 08-07-2014, 05:14 PM

On another note, I can't believe we are arguing about who sucks more between Gray and McNight.

If we end up having to rely on either because of injury, we're ****ed even moreso that we already are.

KCrockaholic · 08-07-2014, 05:18 PM

Old people don't understand sarcasm

**RealSNR** · 08-07-2014, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I hope you are right, but we're counting on all these guys to take a pretty significant step forward this year.

I think Berry is going to be fine if he's used according to his strengths. Abdullah is definitely an upgrade and he's a good guy to have on your roster, but I don't really think he's a starter in the NFL on a good defense.

All defenses have "weak" points. Even the good ones. It's just that some weak points are REALLY weak, and others aren't weak at all.

If Abdullah is a defense's "weak" point, then that defense is pretty ****ing good.

You're all going to be surprised how good he is this year, I think.

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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3115047	Nick Jacob's 53 man Roster Prediction http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/8...tion-preseason Quarterbacks (3) 1. Alex Smith 2. Tyler Bray 3. Aaron Murray The Chiefs have a big decision to make at this position. Do they get the next wave (Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray) ready for the future? Or keep the expensive veteran (Chase Daniel) in 2014? I say the former. Bray has had an impressive camp. He needs to take the next step in his development with the team. Murray is a similar quarterback to Daniel but he needs reps in this offense. The only way that happens is if he's on the roster. Running Back (4) 1. Jamaal Charles 2. Knile Davis 3. De'Anthony Thomas 4. Joe McKnight The top two are set. Thomas is going to be utilized in a multitude of ways. The Chiefs are going to need their fourth back to be able to step in. McKnight, who started camp on the PUP list and lkely won't play Thursday night, is an established veteran with good speed. He also would be a very good contributor on special teams. Fullback (1) 1. Anthony Sherman Sherman came to camp in great shape and has picked up where he left off in 2013. Wide Receivers (6) 1. Dwayne Bowe 2. Donnie Avery 3. Kyle Williams 4. Junior Hemingway 5. Albert Wilson 6. Frankie Hammond Avery has had a steady camp with some solid catches but hasn't been threatened by anyone for his roster spot. Some thought AJ Jenkins could be that guy but it's been Kyle Williams who has pushed Jenkins. Hemingway started camp out on a strong note but sustained a hamstring injury and hasn't seen the field since the last week of July. Hemingway, an exceptional gunner on special teams, was the featured slot receiver during OTAs. Wilson has picked up where he left off in spring practices. The undrafted free agent out of Georgia State has been the primary target among the quarterbacks. Hammond is having an impressive camp, too. He has shown an ability to get separation off the line and add some much needed speed to the roster. Tight End (3) 1. Anthony Fasano 2. Travis Kelce 3. Demetrius Harris Harris provides the most upside of the remaining tight ends. He hasn't had the same impact in camp that he did in spring practices but there isn't much competition left. Offensive Line (8) 1. Eric Fisher 2. Jeff Allen 3. Rodney Hudson 4. Zach Fulton 5. Donald Stephenson 6. Eric Kush 7. Ryan Harris 8. Ricky Henry Fulton has been the surprise of camp showing a good base and not looking lost on the field. Kush is ready from a strength perspective to push for a job over the next year. He got big. Harris, signed this offseason, had a shaky start but has steadily improved with each practice. The late addition to the roster has provided the team a serviceable swing tackle with solid technique. Henry, another player who could provide solid depth, has seen looks with the first offense in the past week. I would not be surprised to see the Chiefs look for additional depth on the waiver wire. Defensive End (4) 1. Mike DeVito 2. Allen Bailey 3. Jaye Howard 4. Mike Catapano DeVito has looked noticeably quicker in training camp. He could give the defense an additional jolt in sub packages. Bailey is clearly stronger and had some solid bull rushers. Howard has been a pleasant surprise at end, dominating at times at the line of scrimmage. Catapano, stronger this year, has missed a week of camp with a flu virus. Nose Tackle (2) 1. Dontari Poe 2. Vance Walker Walker provides versatility along the defensive line. He is capable of playing all three positions and sub packages. Outside Linebacker (5) 1. Justin Houston 2. Tamba Hali 3. Dee Ford 4. Josh Martin 5. Frank Zombo Houston showed up to camp in great shape and looked even stronger this season. Ford has a quick first step but it's going to take time. He has to learn some counter moves and how to disengage from blocks in run support. Martin spent the offseason training with Hali and it has showed. The Columbia alumnus has showed a quick burst off the edge. Zombo, who started five games last year, gives the Chiefs serviceable depth and a solid special team performer. Inside Linebacker (4) 1. Derrick Johnson 2. Joe Mays 3. James Michael-Johnson 4. Josh Mauga The surprise on this list is likely Mauga. Nico Johnson continues to get buried on the depth chart. The Chiefs keep finding competition to put in front of him. Johnson struggles in pass coverage and will need to make an impact in the preseason games or he will find himself on the waiver wire. Cornerback (5) 1. Marcus Cooper 2. Ron Parker 3. Sean Smith 4. Chris Owens 5. Phillip Gaines Cooper has become the No. 1 corner on this roster. Parker has maintained control of the second spot since taking it over this offseason from Sean Smith, who has had a rocky offseason. Owens gives the Chiefs a starting nickel corner who brings an attitude and has made his presence felt. Gaines is going to take time in adjusting the NFL wide receivers. Free Safety (2) 1. Husain Abdullah 2. Malcolm Bronson Bronson has forced his way onto this roster. He gives you versatility as a nickel corner, safety and / or special teams contributor. Strong Safety (3) 1. Eric Berry 2. Jerron McMillian 3. Daniel Sorenson McMillian has been in good position during camp. Sorenson has been forcing his way onto the roster with his pass breakups and interceptions in camp lately. He also can be a good special teams contributor. Specialists (3) 1. Dustin Colquitt 2. Cairo Santos 3. Thomas Gafford Santos has shown a strong leg in camp and Ryan Succop knows the pressure is there. Injured Reserve 1. Sanders Commings Commings has had an unlucky stint in Kansas City. The fracture makes his fourth injury in the past year. Practice Squad 1. Mark Harrison 2. Dominque Hamilton 3. Vernon Kearney 4. Charcandrick West 5. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 6. Darryl Surgent 7. Jordan Campbell 8. DeMarcus Van Dyke These are eight players capable of making the roster but need time to develop. Harrison has promise at the receiver position but a hamstring injury has put him on the back burner. Hamilton has strength and a solid bull rush on the defensive line. Kearney could potentially make the roster if there is an injury. West is a speedy back that needs time to develop but could push for a spot next season. Duvernay-Tardif has a great deal of technique work ahead of him. His base is off balance and his hands don't come up quick enough on his punch. Surgent has been consistent in camp. He just isn't getting the same amount of opportunities that Wilson and Hammond have. Campbell is an intriguing project but needs time to adjust to the new position. Van Dyke allows the organization to have an additional corner to develop.
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