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Old 12-17-2017, 11:06 PM  
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Roethlisberger throws Haley under the bus: "I was yelling 'clock it'"

Surprise surprise. Ben Roethlisberger is back to his normal tricks, this time throwing Todd Haley under the bus for the decision to not spike the ball on the final play that led to the INT.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/b...l-before-pick/

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"It wasn't a fake spike," he said. "I was yelling 'clock it' because I felt like that was the thing to do, was clock it and get yourself one play. And it came from the sideline, 'Don't clock it. Don't clock it.' Well, at that time, everyone thinks it's clocked so you don't have any time to get everyone lined up. ... Eli (Rogers) kinda ran a quick slant in there and at that time you just got to try to make a big play. And I didn't make a good enough throw."
Make sure and click the link to watch the video. There are more specifics where he says Haley is the one who made the call. Jason LaCanfora reports however that Ben had two plays to choose from, and he chose the fake-spike.

Either way, this is interesting and not good for Pittsburgh.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:33 AM   #31
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Ben was never an all-time great

Has Big Ben ever won in Foxborough OVER Brady? (2008 was easy as eating a big "Casselrole" for Roethlisberger).

I don't know. I don't remember the Steelers beating us in Foxboro. BB/Brady have really owned the Steelers for the entire duration of their tenure with the pats, going all the way back to the original SB runs when we beat them in two different AFCCGs, at least one of which, possibly both, were in Pittsburgh.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:34 AM   #32
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While this may be true, these gimmick/trick plays mostly fail in the NFL and more times than not backfire. We know this very well.

But low risk play, right? I mean, unless they fumble the snap or Ben is sacked, which should not happen because he should see if the trick worked or not and then either pass to the open guy or shoot it into the third row.

I mean, they're not running a real play, right? They're not even trying to. It's instant -- either it worked or it didn't, and either you throw it to the open guy or the third row. It's very straightforward in my mind how that works. Or should work, anyway.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:35 AM   #33
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I don't know. I don't remember the Steelers beating us in Foxboro. BB/Brady have really owned the Steelers for the entire duration of their tenure with the pats, going all the way back to the original SB runs when we beat them in two different AFCCGs, at least one of which, possibly both, were in Pittsburgh.
NE doesn't want to play us, and we don't want to play Pit.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:41 AM   #34
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NE doesn't want to play us, and we don't want to play Pit.

Absolutely true if you have Berry. Without him, I'm not sure if I prefer a fully healthy (re: with Brown) Steelers team over Chiefs.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:44 AM   #35
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So is Ben supposed to make up a lie that puts more blame on himself? Or should he refuse to comment at all?
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:46 AM   #36
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One of the benefits of having so many friends from Pennsylvania is seeing everyone absolutely lose their shit over the Steelers coming up short on the scoreboard. Especially in the way it happened.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:50 AM   #37
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Absolutely true if you have Berry. Without him, I'm not sure if I prefer a fully healthy (re: with Brown) Steelers team over Chiefs.
You and me could be the Steelers WR's and they'd beat KC because of Bell...
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You and me could be the Steelers WR's and they'd beat KC because of Bell...
They don’t even need Bell. The Chiefs have scored 14, 16, and 13 points against the Steelers in their last three meetings. Steelers just need to bring a healthy kicker.
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So is Ben supposed to make up a lie that puts more blame on himself? Or should he refuse to comment at all?
He could've :
Clocked the ball
OR
thrown it out the back of the end zone.

He was literally the one with the ball in his hands, not Tomlin or Haley or anyone on the coaching staff.
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Absolutely true if you have Berry. Without him, I'm not sure if I prefer a fully healthy (re: with Brown) Steelers team over Chiefs.
Touché, the Steelers knew Gronk would be fed the ball, simply because he's the only weapon Brady has at this point...and they still couldn't stop it from happening.
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Everyone talking about the non td call and nothing about the play resulting in the INT to seal the game.I've seen a helluva lot less called PI in the NFL.

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Part of what sucks for the Steelers is that the guy only lost control because he was trying to score the TD. He clearly COULD have rolled and tucked the ball into his belly and completed the catch at the 1 yard line. By reaching for the goal line, he contacted the ground and lost contol of the ball. Because he didn't complete the catch by "surviving the ground", it was incomplete.

You can hate the rule, but the call was right.
This. Between this and the touchback rule - it's often very high-risk/low-reward to reach for the end zone (like on 1st down) in the NFL. Of course players still do it because of human nature. But you'd think the NFL would care how unsatisfying it is for the fans to see their team penalized just for trying to reach other few inches to score.
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