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Old 11-30-2014, 08:20 PM  
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How do you feel about him as your QB in this situation?
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:20 PM   #166
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Not from me, not anymore...

Did the line play their worst game last night, yes.
Do our receivers still lack any real explosive ability, yes.

But none of that changes the fact that he did have chances to make something happen and he missed them repeatedly, when an offense has three straight three and outs you can bet that the QB most certainly deserves a heaping dose of blame.

12 games in and he hasn't been able to find an open WR in the endzone? BULLSHIT

12 games in and his longest pass of the year is 34 yards? BULLSHIT

The grind it out, methodical style is fine if that's what he prefers, but ONLY when its coupled with the capability to get yards in chunks when it becomes NECESSARY.

**** him along with all the rest of this shithole, last night was my breaking point... I'm going full Clay from here on.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:20 PM   #167
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Open up the ****ing playbook. Shake up the offensive line.
Well I agree with that. But it's time for everyone to realize Smith is our QB for at least 2 more seasons, minimum.

And it's time for Reid to have a hard talk with him and look himself in the mirror the same time and realize WE HAVE TO THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:22 PM   #168
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He's boring, but what does anyone suggest we do? Draft Derek Carr or Blake Bortles?
We upgrade his line and receivers next year and tell him "you have no excuses now, start making plays when we need them or your expensive ass can go have a seat".

This year we're just gonna have to suck it up I'm afraid, theres just no chance Reid sits his big money signing for Daniel or Murray when we're still "technically" in the hunt.

I wouldn't mind picking up a QB in the draft either, create a logjam in camp and see who can rise above it.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:24 PM   #169
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We upgrade his line and receivers next year and tell him "you have no excuses now, start making plays when we need them or your expensive ass can go have a seat".

This year we're just gonna have to suck it up I'm afraid, theres just no chance Reid sits his big money signing for Daniel or Murray when we're still "technically" in the hunt.

I wouldn't mind picking up a QB in the draft either, create a logjam in camp and see who can rise above it.
Upgrading his receivers will only bring more excuses.

"He hasn't had time to gel with this receivers."

"His receivers are new to the offense."

This is what I find funny about people claiming that we need to draft 2-3 WRs. Do you really think that Dorsey/Reid are going to run this offense next year with that many rookies? They couldn't even ****ing trust ONE this season.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:25 PM   #170
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Upgrading his receivers will only bring more excuses.

"He hasn't had time to gel with this receivers."

"His receivers are new to the offense."

This is what I find funny about people claiming that we need to draft 2-3 WRs. Do you really think that Dorsey/Reid are going to run this offense next year with that many rookies? They couldn't even ****ing trust ONE this season.
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Open up the ****ing playbook. Shake up the offensive line.
Yeah, the coaches need their fair share ass kicking, last nights plan looked sooo uninspired, the TEAM looked uninspired... the offense wasn't using any of its usual motions, shifts and trickery, the defense looked just plain flat like they'd all lost their ****ing moms Saturday night.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:28 PM   #172
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I've finally had it, they had no excuse to look like that.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:30 PM   #173
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Upgrading his receivers will only bring more excuses.

"He hasn't had time to gel with this receivers."

"His receivers are new to the offense."

This is what I find funny about people claiming that we need to draft 2-3 WRs. Do you really think that Dorsey/Reid are going to run this offense next year with that many rookies? They couldn't even ****ing trust ONE this season.
The goalposts continually shift with people here.

Point is you'll never get a team that is operating at optimal efficiency at every level. You have to make coaching and personnel decisions to alleviate that.

I have no doubt there will be at least one WR taken next year. And then it will be obvious that the player is a rookie then Smith will get a pass because not everyone can be Odell Beckham or Sammy Watkins.

There will be one OL taken that won't unseat a current guy on the line. "It takes a lot of time for a lineman to be NFL ready. Look at Eric Fisher!"

Point is this lag time between when a player is drafted and when they start becoming gameday ready takes a two seasons.. And this should have been considered when Smith was traded for.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:34 PM   #174
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Well I agree with that. But it's time for everyone to realize Smith is our QB for at least 2 more seasons, minimum.

And it's time for Reid to have a hard talk with him and look himself in the mirror the same time and realize WE HAVE TO THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD
and ALEX NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO AUDIBLE TO A HOT ROUTE WHEN THE BLITZ IS ABOUT TO COME!

Teams are going to keep stacking the box so Jamaal doesn't go off on them and because Alex can't handle it.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:46 PM   #175
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lol pretty much. This team had a chance to get one a couple of years ago instead of winning a handful of meaningless games. That is Clark's fault.
How would Luck have performed with this god awful o line and lack of decent receivers? Our O line can't pass block for more than 2 seconds and our receivers can't get any kind of seperation in 10 seconds let alone 2. Then mix in the fact that we don't use one of our best offensive weapons (Kelce) on a consistent basis, and that during 1/3 of our games the coach forgets we have Charles on the roster, and Davis barely touches the ball. Lots of problems on this team. I think Luck is a good qb who has the ability to be great, but I don't see many qbs being successful with all the odds they would have to fight here.
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Yeah, the coaches need their fair share ass kicking, last nights plan looked sooo uninspired, the TEAM looked uninspired... the offense wasn't using any of its usual motions, shifts and trickery, the defense looked just plain flat like they'd all lost their ****ing moms Saturday night.
That's what happens when you cant stop the run and the heart of your defense (Berry, DJ) is missing.
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How would Luck have performed with this god awful o line and lack of decent receivers? Our O line can't pass block for more than 2 seconds and our receivers can't get any kind of seperation in 10 seconds let alone 2. Then mix in the fact that we don't use one of our best offensive weapons (Kelce) on a consistent basis, and that during 1/3 of our games the coach forgets we have Charles on the roster, and Davis barely touches the ball. Lots of problems on this team. I think Luck is a good qb who has the ability to be great, but I don't see many qbs being successful with all the odds they would have to fight here.
He would do what most QBs do. He would find the ****ing outlet to dump it off too. He'd also take shots down the field which would keep the defense honest.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:50 PM   #178
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Open up the ****ing playbook. Shake up the offensive line.
I don't see how either of those are really options.

The only time the Chiefs can throw is when the defense doesn't expect it. They simply can't hold up on the O-line to let routes develop.
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He would do what most QBs do. He would find the ****ing outlet to dump it off too. He'd also take shots down the field which would keep the defense honest.
with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?
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with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?
I hate you.

A wise and patient game? What's wise about never audibling into a hot route to relieve the all-out blitzes that we see all the time?
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