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Old 05-21-2019, 10:15 AM  
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:47 AM   #196
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i dont see how he doesnt have a killer year with more "down linemen" and what should be a much better rotation to spell him.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:50 AM   #197
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i dont see how he doesnt have a killer year with more "down linemen" and what should be a much better rotation to spell him.
While that makes logical sense, he has a bad habit of taking plays off and is a reason our run d has been so shitty.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:50 AM   #198
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its basically do you wanna risk an ascending player hitting the open market and letting the market potentially push your price up even more and or losing him or try to get 110% out of him again because hes in a contract year? weve been burned on the contract year several times. he wants donald money and thats a bank breaker, but another season of donaldish numbers may just push it even farther.
If it gets way out of hand you tag and trade him like the sea chickens did with Clark to us. If he refuses to play next year after this year then we tag him and find someone to give us a first for him and we trade him off. Still come out looking good either way. I want the guy but either way we hold the cards
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:54 AM   #199
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My argument is based on the assumption that he is trying to get paid as the top interior lineman in the league. If that's the case and he has another good year he's still going to want to be paid that way. A lot of us are speculating here. One side he's not already asking for the contract he would get if we tagged him next year and negotiated. I'm looking at it from the standpoint if he's already asking for that contract let him prove it.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:06 AM   #200
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hes basically a top 3 interior lineman correct? and every time a top 5 anything gets paid anymore they get paid the biggest contract for that positon in history unless five gets paid immediately after 1 gets paid. so give him a little more than donald and get it over with. its gonna happen eventually either way.

everyone says he was known for taking plays off, i remember that from college and i remember that as a rookie but i really dont remember him doing that much last season from what i remember he was meh in run d because he was over aggressive and would penetrate into the back field instead of filling gaps too often but i dont remember him just checking out for a drive like he did in college. (note im no film expert and didnt do a break down or anything but i did watch jones more than others because he was one of two defensive bright spots)
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:22 AM   #201
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He's not. Fletcher Cox is.

I made a poll on Footballsfuture forum and everyone said Cox and rightfully so.

I'm just saying that because I've seen someone else on this forum say the same you're saying and it's just not true.
Lol ok. I guess that settles it then.

Cox is getting credit for his career, because Jones was significantly more productive on significantly fewer snaps in 2018.

If you want to say Cox is a better all around interior DL, you have an argument. But he was not the better pass rusher in 2018 and I don’t really care what everybody on ”Footballsfuture” said.
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While that makes logical sense, he has a bad habit of taking plays off and is a reason our run d has been so shitty.
Yea he racked up 14 sacks taking a lot of plays off

That’s nonsense and nothing more than a dumb narrative.
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He’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and only 24 years old.

You’re an idiot if you don’t think we should pay this man. How’s the defense going to get better when you let young blue chippers walk in their prime?
Pay him yes. All in for that but not some long crazy money deal that we regret in 2 years. We have had enough of that. If he wants to be greedy then he can be traded for a CB. We need another more than him.
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you either pay out the ass or have second tier talent guys...

that works if your bill bellicheck.
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Yea he racked up 14 sacks taking a lot of plays off

That’s nonsense and nothing more than a dumb narrative.
He's not the most disciplined in the run game.

Rushing the QB is more important atleast.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:42 AM   #207
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He's not the most disciplined in the run game.

Rushing the QB is more important atleast.
Sure, but there’s a difference between that and “taking plays off”.
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He's not the most disciplined in the run game.

Rushing the QB is more important atleast.
No it isn't. Rushing the QB did shit for us last year. We need run stoppers and a tough secondary. Not a 20 mil per year DT.
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