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Old 10-15-2018, 03:23 PM   #1
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I'm a chargers fan and would like to believe that but I feel it's a load of crap. The chargers are the same football team they've always been. Rivers is in the stage of his career where the staff is trying to protect him by running the ball more but that only works against piss poor defenses. Melvin Gordon isn't a legit tailback. Chargers probably lead the league in negative offensive plays. Rivers lack of mobility always gets him in trouble in close games in obvious passing downs. The defense is nothing special. Bosa will be back at some point but I just don't think the chargers can score enough. I think the chargers and chiefs could play 10 times with their current rosters and chiefs would win 9 of them.

Chiefs D is horrendous except for when it counts, 3rd down. Right now they can't stop the run at all but have some players coming back and should get better. This team might seem a lot like the Vermeil Chiefs but to me they're quite a bit different. Vermeil's chiefs were primarily a running team. They ran the ball and ran play action off that. Trent Green never excelled in extending plays on obvious passing downs or running a 2 minute offense when the threat of the run was eliminated. But this current chiefs team can score from anywhere on the field in any situation. I think they're most like the '99-'01 Rams in that the only way they will lose is by turning the football over because no team can keep up with their offense unless they gain extra possessions.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:08 PM   #2
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I'm a chargers fan and would like to believe that but I feel it's a load of crap. The chargers are the same football team they've always been. Rivers is in the stage of his career where the staff is trying to protect him by running the ball more but that only works against piss poor defenses. Melvin Gordon isn't a legit tailback. Chargers probably lead the league in negative offensive plays. Rivers lack of mobility always gets him in trouble in close games in obvious passing downs. The defense is nothing special. Bosa will be back at some point but I just don't think the chargers can score enough. I think the chargers and chiefs could play 10 times with their current rosters and chiefs would win 9 of them.

Chiefs D is horrendous except for when it counts, 3rd down. Right now they can't stop the run at all but have some players coming back and should get better. This team might seem a lot like the Vermeil Chiefs but to me they're quite a bit different. Vermeil's chiefs were primarily a running team. They ran the ball and ran play action off that. Trent Green never excelled in extending plays on obvious passing downs or running a 2 minute offense when the threat of the run was eliminated. But this current chiefs team can score from anywhere on the field in any situation. I think they're most like the '99-'01 Rams in that the only way they will lose is by turning the football over because no team can keep up with their offense unless they gain extra possessions.
This guy gets it. Good post.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:52 AM   #3
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Just saw Cowherd's 'Herd Hierarchy' top 10 for the week on youtube. He has the Chiefs at 5. Which is fine. Basically calls the defense garbage, which is fine as well.

But then he goes on to say Mahomes is now throwing multiple picks in a game as a reason for the low rank and tries to re-ignite the 'gunslinger' narrative. Dude is so out of touch with reality and the audience. I bet if barber shops, car dealerships and hospitals stop playing ESPN and FS1 on mute or low volume, these reeruns would have zero ratings.
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:52 PM   #4
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Just saw Cowherd's 'Herd Hierarchy' top 10 for the week on youtube. He has the Chiefs at 5. Which is fine. Basically calls the defense garbage, which is fine as well.



But then he goes on to say Mahomes is now throwing multiple picks in a game as a reason for the low rank and tries to re-ignite the 'gunslinger' narrative. Dude is so out of touch with reality and the audience. I bet if barber shops, car dealerships and hospitals stop playing ESPN and FS1 on mute or low volume, these reeruns would have zero ratings.

I’m willing to bet he doesn’t have any audio about Watson INTs from last year. He probably also thinks defenses have figured him out because of the picks.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:15 PM   #5
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I'm a chargers fan and would like to believe that but I feel it's a load of crap. The chargers are the same football team they've always been. Rivers is in the stage of his career where the staff is trying to protect him by running the ball more but that only works against piss poor defenses. Melvin Gordon isn't a legit tailback. Chargers probably lead the league in negative offensive plays. Rivers lack of mobility always gets him in trouble in close games in obvious passing downs. The defense is nothing special. Bosa will be back at some point but I just don't think the chargers can score enough. I think the chargers and chiefs could play 10 times with their current rosters and chiefs would win 9 of them.

Chiefs D is horrendous except for when it counts, 3rd down. Right now they can't stop the run at all but have some players coming back and should get better. This team might seem a lot like the Vermeil Chiefs but to me they're quite a bit different. Vermeil's chiefs were primarily a running team. They ran the ball and ran play action off that. Trent Green never excelled in extending plays on obvious passing downs or running a 2 minute offense when the threat of the run was eliminated. But this current chiefs team can score from anywhere on the field in any situation. I think they're most like the '99-'01 Rams in that the only way they will lose is by turning the football over because no team can keep up with their offense unless they gain extra possessions.
Chiefs D has also been great on forcing punt on 1st possession of game.

IIRC, 2018 Chiefs have won all 6 coin tosses and deferred each time, All 6 games Chiefs kicked off and forced punts in 5 games and gave up opening drive FG to Denver in week 4.

I wonder what the record is for consecutive coin toss wins. I am pretty sure Chiefs are 6 in a row this year.

I think Chargers are a good team, but think not having any real home games is tough to overcome.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:18 PM   #6
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Just had to say that in over 12 years here, I never had a clue B Ambuehl was a Chargers fan... how in the hell does that happen?

Until now he must've been the most closeted Chargers fan in America

On a different, but op related note... Patrick interviewed Rivers yesterday, it was a solid listen and AFCW opponent or not, he is one solid dude, very down to earth and likeable
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:22 PM   #7
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Just had to say that in over 12 years here, I never had a clue B Ambuehl was a Chargers fan... how in the hell does that happen?

Until now he must've been the most closeted Chargers fan in America

On a different, but op related note... Patrick interviewed Rivers yesterday, it was a solid listen and AFCW opponent or not, he is one solid dude, very down to earth and likeable
Except on Sunday's, when he turns into a giant, crying baby...
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