No elite in this draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by whoman69

If you're going to tell me this is 2009 draft part II, I'm not going to believe you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

9 years later, we'll have a hell of a quarterback with noone to throw to, no protection, and no defense.

True Fan is True.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

I think damned near everyone thinks 1 of the 3 QB's should be picked. The real question is if Pioli is still here - which he shouldn't be - will he take one?

And that scares the living shit out of me.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I think damned near everyone thinks 1 of the 3 QB's should be picked. The real question is if Pioli is still here - which he shouldn't be - will he take one?

And that scares the living shit out of me.

What was done to the Chiefs in the past four years are crimes against humanity.

Pioli, Crennel, and all his Nazi henchmen will assuredly stand trial for this. There's no way they are not found guilty.

[Saccopoo]

I don't give a flying **** about Kiper's opinion.

When I watch Geno Smith I see a guy with all the tools, the leadership and a natural feel for the game that goes beyond the measurables.

His pocket awareness is uncanny and his release is as quick as I've ever seen on a QB at the college level. Smith also has a high release point on the ball and he's incredibly accurate with ball placement to every level of the field. His ability to hit receivers in stride is uncanny. His usable arm strength is superb.

And there are two things that really help a QB to be successful at the next level in terms of on the field intangibles, and that's pocket presence and a quick release.

I think Smith's upside is as good as any QB that's come out over the past 15/20 years. He's a better QB prospect than RGIII IMO.

That's elite in my book.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I don't give a flying **** about Kiper's opinion.

When I watch Geno Smith I see a guy with all the tools, the leadership and a natural feel for the game that goes beyond the measurables.

His pocket awareness is uncanny and his release is as quick as I've ever seen on a QB at the college level. Smith also has a high release point on the ball and he's incredibly accurate with ball placement to every level of the field. His ability to hit receivers in stride is uncanny. His usable arm strength is superb.

And there are two things that really help a QB to be successful at the next level in terms of on the field intangibles, and that's pocket presence and a quick release.

I think Smith's upside is as good as any QB that's come out over the past 15/20 years. He's a better QB prospect than RGIII IMO.

That's elite in my book.

whoa doggy. to me he's more like Cam Newton than RG3. but I would not say he is as good as either player. I think you can win with Smith at this level and I agree with your other points. he throws a tight ball.

RG3 is more like Steve Young -- a driven winner. I see smarts in Geno, just not quite as driven to win. He takes what you give him and I like that.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

whoa doggy. to me he's more like Cam Newton than RG3. but I would not say he is as good as either player. I think you can win with Smith at this level and I agree with your other points. he throws a tight ball.

RG3 is more like Steve Young -- a driven winner. I see smarts in Geno, just not quite as driven to win. He takes what you give him and I like that.

I'd argue vehemently that Cam Newton was indeed a driven winner. Go watch his senior year at Auburn. He put that team on his back and simply took over games because there were no other options.

Anyway, I digress...

RGIII had a superb junior year.

His sophomore year, 2010, Baylor was 7-6.
His Heisman junior year, Baylor was 10-3.

And if you are saying that Smith isn't a driven winner, you would be wrong. He's put WV on his back a multitude of times.

And he's not a "running" QB, which you seem to be eluding to anyway.

I'm not fully comprehending what you are trying to get at, so this is why this response is so vague.

Smith is a stud. He's a better pure QB prospect than Griffin IMO.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'd argue vehemently that Cam Newton was indeed a driven winner. Go watch his senior year at Auburn. He put that team on his back and simply took over games because there were no other options.

Anyway, I digress...

RGIII had a superb junior year.

His sophomore year, 2010, Baylor was 7-6.
His Heisman junior year, Baylor was 10-3.

And if you are saying that Smith isn't a driven winner, you would be wrong. He's put WV on his back a multitude of times.

And he's not a "running" QB, which you seem to be eluding to anyway.

I'm not fully comprehending what you are trying to get at, so this is why this response is so vague.

Smith is a stud. He's a better pure QB prospect than Griffin IMO.

RG3 uses his legs if necessary, Geno & Cam like to stay put. But, Smith will move around to buy time much the way Cam does it.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

RG3 uses his legs if necessary, Geno & Cam like to stay put. But, Smith will move around to buy time much the way Cam does it.

Cam likes to stay put? Is that why he's leading his team in rushing?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

RG3 uses his legs if necessary, Geno & Cam like to stay put. But, Smith will move around to buy time much the way Cam does it.

Okay...let's get this straight.

Steve Young was a freak. He was the size of a fullback, with speed, yet had amazing accuracy with his arm.

Cam Newton and Tim Tebow are like this, but have no real accuracy with the arm. But both are total gamers.

Mike Vick has a huge arm and is amazingly fast. Not accurate and makes bad decisions. Not a big build.

RGIII is a smart version of Vick. I wonder about his longevity as he's already had one concussion this year and the team is trying to get him to limit his runs out of the pocket. It was my big concern about Griffin coming out.

Luck, Bradford, and Ponder are all the same type of QB. Nice athleticism, good (not great) arm, head for the game.

Rogers has a very live arm with good athleticism that he uses when it's needed.

Cutler and Stafford are pure pocket passers with cannons.

Eli Manning, Alex Smith, Matt Ryan are heady QB's with okay arms that are very accurate.

If I was trying to associate Geno Smith with a current NFL quarterback, I'd put him in with Aaron Rogers. He's that type of player with that level of upside. He's being looked at by the pundits as almost the same type of player at the same level going into the draft.

I'm okay with that as a potential QBOTF for the Chiefs.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'd argue vehemently that Cam Newton was indeed a driven winner. Go watch his senior year at Auburn. He put that team on his back and simply took over games because there were no other options.

I think Cam was driven by external forces. He will be one of those players that will only have good years when there is a contract on the line.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

We better spend some picks on O-Linemen. The way this line has blocked, our new QBOTF may end up with David Carr-syndrome.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Zeke

We better spend some picks on O-Linemen. The way this line has blocked, our new QBOTF may end up with David Carr-syndrome.

This line will instantly improve with a real QB under center.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This line will instantly improve with a real QB under center.

I hope you're right

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This line will instantly improve with a real QB under center.

Yep they will improve some because of that but also when we get a decent OC that will spread the Defense. A QB that a defense had to worry about would definitely be nice.