Trade down?

Couch-Potato · 02-17-2015, 07:28 PM

I've seen a lot of fans wondering if we could package picks to trade up in the draft and snag a top rated WR, often times sighting Amari Cooper. Personally, I think there are so many quality WR's in the draft that trading down is a better option.

Ideally I'd love it if the Chiefs could trade down into the mid 20's and grab an extra 3rd, or dare I say late 2nd round pick?

Any scenario's in which you guys see trading down becoming a real possibility? Who would fall, and which team would want to move up and grab him?

Titty Meat · 02-17-2015, 08:32 PM

Nightfyre · 02-17-2015, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Billay

No

There are plenty of scenarios involving trade downs. Ignore Billay - who is an asshat.

Coochie liquor · 02-17-2015, 08:40 PM

We can trade the Colts our first, and third for Andrew Luck. I'll even throw Alex smith in for good measure.

kcchiefsus · 02-17-2015, 09:51 PM

Some teams constantly show the ability to maneuver throughout the draft and trade picks easily. The Chiefs are not one of those teams. For some reason we never have shown the ability or willingness to trade and maneuver in the draft (the exception being trading picks for crappy quarterbacks or for coaches).

Trading down would be an excellent idea IMO but we'll probably go another draft without seeing any movement. We'll probably see teams trading into the spot right before us to snag a player and San Diego getting a good haul for the #17 pick but we'll be left with our dicks in our hands once again.

**LoneWolf** · 02-17-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Some teams constantly show the ability to maneuver throughout the draft and trade picks easily. The Chiefs are not one of those teams. For some reason we never have shown the ability or willingness to trade and maneuver in the draft (the exception being trading picks for crappy quarterbacks or for coaches).

Trading down would be an excellent idea IMO but we'll probably go another draft without seeing any movement. We'll probably see teams trading into the spot right before us to snag a player and San Diego getting a good haul for the #17 pick but we'll be left with our dicks in our hands once again.

Justin Houston laughs at your assertion that KC has NEVER shown the ability to maneuver in the draft.

kcchiefsus · 02-17-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Justin Houston laughs at your assertion that KC has NEVER shown the ability to maneuver in the draft.

Wow we traded once. We also traded in the 2008 draft. Big deal. Teams like New England trade more in a single draft than the Chiefs will trade in 10 years.

Titty Meat · 02-18-2015, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

There are plenty of scenarios involving trade downs. Ignore Billay - who is an asshat.

Yeah a team with 10 picks is going to trade down. How many times have the Chiefs traded down the last decade? A thread like this gets made every year.

redshirt32 · 02-18-2015, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Billay

Yeah a team with 10 picks is going to trade down. How many times have the Chiefs traded down the last decade? A thread like this gets made every year.

Yea they should not trade its been working for them the last 40 plus years?

**LoneWolf** · 02-18-2015, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Wow we traded once. We also traded in the 2008 draft. Big deal. Teams like New England trade more in a single draft than the Chiefs will trade in 10 years.

Also traded in 2003 and 2002. So 4 first round trades in 12 years, but they NEVER show the ability to maneuver in the draft?

kcchiefsus · 02-18-2015, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Also traded in 2003 and 2002. So 4 first round trades in 12 years, but they NEVER show the ability to maneuver in the draft?

Spin it how you will. Some teams constantly maneuver up or down to get the players they want. Some teams sit on their thumbs and hope the players will fall in their laps. You decide which one the Chiefs are.

Why Not? · 02-18-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

We can trade the Colts our first, and third for Andrew Luck. I'll even throw Alex smith in for good measure.

And give up an opportunity to snag our next starting guard? Are you mad?

Couch-Potato · 03-18-2015, 06:27 AM

Now that free agency is well on it's way, does anyone have any new scenarios in which the chiefs might find a partner to trade down in this years draft?

I like the talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year a lot.

Saccopoo · 03-18-2015, 08:08 AM

I too like the second and third round talent.

However, as someone mentioned, the Chiefs have a good number of picks in this draft to get the guys they want.

Keeping their #18 pick allows them to still have a chance at a guy that they have rated very highly on their draft board, BPA type of guy that they can roll the dice on. A high ceiling type of guy like Arik Armstead, Bud Dupree, Owamagabe Odighizuwa, Dorial Green-Beckham, Melvin Gordon, etc. There is really a lot of raw talent in the first round - some real physical freaks that have only begun to scratch at their potential.

This season, I don't mind the Chiefs sitting pat and taking that type of guy in the first as they have a number of picks later and it's a pretty deep draft from a talent pool perspective. With potentially one second, two thirds, a fourth, and perhaps three fifth round picks, they'll have a chance to get those meat and potato players. I'm inclined to roll the dice on a freak in the first and at #18, I think that they will get their chance to do so.

philfree · 03-18-2015, 09:26 AM

There is no way to know what teams draft boards look like and who they have rated high and who they don't. Agholor is a nice prospect at WR but will he make it to our 2nd pick? He has the talent of a 1st rounder but is a little slight of build so he's ranked in the 2nd round by the draft gurus out there. So all that said if we traded down to the bottom of the 1st and picked him I'd be alright with that. Of course you don't make that move until you see who's available at #18.

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Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	I too like the second and third round talent. However, as someone mentioned, the Chiefs have a good number of picks in this draft to get the guys they want. Keeping their #18 pick allows them to still have a chance at a guy that they have rated very highly on their draft board, BPA type of guy that they can roll the dice on. A high ceiling type of guy like Arik Armstead, Bud Dupree, Owamagabe Odighizuwa, Dorial Green-Beckham, Melvin Gordon, etc. There is really a lot of raw talent in the first round - some real physical freaks that have only begun to scratch at their potential. This season, I don't mind the Chiefs sitting pat and taking that type of guy in the first as they have a number of picks later and it's a pretty deep draft from a talent pool perspective. With potentially one second, two thirds, a fourth, and perhaps three fifth round picks, they'll have a chance to get those meat and potato players. I'm inclined to roll the dice on a freak in the first and at #18, I think that they will get their chance to do so.
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philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1566198	There is no way to know what teams draft boards look like and who they have rated high and who they don't. Agholor is a nice prospect at WR but will he make it to our 2nd pick? He has the talent of a 1st rounder but is a little slight of build so he's ranked in the 2nd round by the draft gurus out there. So all that said if we traded down to the bottom of the 1st and picked him I'd be alright with that. Of course you don't make that move until you see who's available at #18. __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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