***Official Gruden QB Camp Thread***

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

I'd take Chad Pennington at #18 all day long. Rather than Alex Smith at #34. Chad wasn't a bust.

That's fine. Remind me not to consider you for the GM spot when I buy my NFL team.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Originally Posted by patteeu

That's fine. Remind me not to consider you for the GM spot when I buy my NFL team.

You win anyway. I just defended a JET. Now I have to spend the next 2.5 hours hugging a toliet with semi-dry heaves.

[Chiefnj2]

The Chiefs can probably get a slow eyed QB who can't play under center in the second round next year and sit him for the year while Alex plays out his contract.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The Chiefs can probably get a slow eyed QB who can't play under center in the second round next year and sit him for the year while Alex plays out his contract.

Why not just take Geno?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by penbook

Why not just take Geno?

Because you can get the same type of QB next year with a 2nd round pick.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Because you can get the same type of QB next year with a 2nd round pick.

Ok. Name me a qb who is like Geno who will be there in the 2nd next year.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Because you can get the same type of QB next year with a 2nd round pick.

IF the class is as good as 2012. Then MAYBE.

I think some people need a history lesson. 2011 was a deep class of QBs, just not a particularly good one at the top. But just because 2011 and 2012 happened in succession doesn't mean we should act like they're the norm. There was still 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006... etc. You'd have to go back to 2004 to find these mythical QBs that are just as good as Geno to be had in the 2nd round.

In the meantime, what if Alex is a Cassel this year? What if we draft around the 10-15 range again, and whoever 2014's top two QBs are get drafted at 1 and 2? Shall we dip into the Brandon Weeden waters again?

The point is when you're a franchise as bad as the Chiefs have been at being in the right spot at the right time to select the right QB, which is what the true fans want us to wait for, there comes a time when you have to expedite the process a bit.

After 30 years, I think that time has come. We're gonna have to force the issue a bit. Andrew Luck isn't going to happen, and the fans are sick of waiting for us to fall ass over tea kettle into Russell Wilson.

If Geno Smith is as good as the 2nd round QB you talk about, then ****ing TAKE HIM. Get his learning going NOW. Don't wait for Alex Smith to herp and derp for 4 years before you decide we should draft a QB.

The NFL isn't a patient business. What you can do today SHOULD BE ****ING DONE TODAY.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by SNR

IF the class is as good as 2012. Then MAYBE.

I think some people need a history lesson. 2011 was a deep class of QBs, just not a particularly good one at the top. But just because 2011 and 2012 happened in succession doesn't mean we should act like they're the norm. There was still 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006... etc. You'd have to go back to 2004 to find these mythical QBs that are just as good as Geno to be had in the 2nd round.

In the meantime, what if Alex is a Cassel this year? What if we draft around the 10-15 range again, and whoever 2014's top two QBs are get drafted at 1 and 2? Shall we dip into the Brandon Weeden waters again?

The point is when you're a franchise as bad as the Chiefs have been at being in the right spot at the right time to select the right QB, which is what the true fans want us to wait for, there comes a time when you have to expedite the process a bit.

After 30 years, I think that time has come. We're gonna have to force the issue a bit. Andrew Luck isn't going to happen, and the fans are sick of waiting for us to fall ass over tea kettle into Russell Wilson.

If Geno Smith is as good as the 2nd round QB you talk about, then ****ing TAKE HIM. Get his learning going NOW. Don't wait for Alex Smith to herp and derp for 4 years before you decide we should draft a QB.

The NFL isn't a patient business. What you can do today SHOULD BE ****ING DONE TODAY.

And here we go.....

See, people like Patt want to make it about Geno Smith.

It' not about Geno. It's never been about Geno. It's ALWAYS been about taking an early round talent and developing him instead of rehashing backup Qb after backup QB.

But people can't argue against that point, so instead they attack Geno Smith.

If Matt Barkley was considered the top prospect, then people would be advocating for Barkley.

Last year it was Tannehill (because he was the only one who MIGHT'VE been avail)
The year before that it was Clausen
The year before that it was Sanchez/Freeman

And you know what? Next year it will be Bridgewater/Murray/ whatever other QB rises to the top.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by SNR

IF the class is as good as 2012. Then MAYBE.

I think some people need a history lesson. 2011 was a deep class of QBs, just not a particularly good one at the top. But just because 2011 and 2012 happened in succession doesn't mean we should act like they're the norm. There was still 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006... etc. You'd have to go back to 2004 to find these mythical QBs that are just as good as Geno to be had in the 2nd round.

In the meantime, what if Alex is a Cassel this year? What if we draft around the 10-15 range again, and whoever 2014's top two QBs are get drafted at 1 and 2? Shall we dip into the Brandon Weeden waters again?

The point is when you're a franchise as bad as the Chiefs have been at being in the right spot at the right time to select the right QB, which is what the true fans want us to wait for, there comes a time when you have to expedite the process a bit.

After 30 years, I think that time has come. We're gonna have to force the issue a bit. Andrew Luck isn't going to happen, and the fans are sick of waiting for us to fall ass over tea kettle into Russell Wilson.

If Geno Smith is as good as the 2nd round QB you talk about, then ****ing TAKE HIM. Get his learning going NOW. Don't wait for Alex Smith to herp and derp for 4 years before you decide we should draft a QB.

The NFL isn't a patient business. What you can do today SHOULD BE ****ING DONE TODAY.

Outstanding post!

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Because you can get the same type of QB next year with a 2nd round pick.

Really?

You are going to find a 6'3", 225 lbs. three year starter (well verses in both a pro style set as well as a pistol spread system) that put up 71.2% completion, 4000+ yards, 44 TD's to only 6 Ints in one of the best football conferences in college? A former HS Parade All-American who was designing plays for his HS team?

Who is that QB that is just like that who will be available in the second round next year?

[penbrook]

A lot of people now are saying Fisher will be the #1 draft pick.

No one has any ****ing idea who were gonna draft.

[RealSNR]

Patteeu:

My brigade of evil Geno's Liberation Army child soldiers will stand down upon your unconditional surrender.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Wasn't the Barkley one suppose to air today...?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You put up Hall of Fame guys and I put up guys who were the first QBs drafted in their weak QB classes. So which one of the five would you take if you believed you were choosing between a Munoz, a Roaf, a Pennington, a Druckenmiller, and a Banks? Which one of those five guys would do the most to improve your team over the long run?

You're a ****ing idiot. So you're guaranteeing Joeckel will be a HOF LT? If you're not, your argument if queer as ****.

[B14ckmon]

Chiefs are drafting Joeckel.