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Old 10-22-2012, 07:44 AM   #1
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Real men drive a stick, besides a manual transmission is more efficient.
Even with today’s multispeed automatics there is still less parasitic horsepower loss in a manual than an automatic transmission.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:46 PM   #2
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Real men drive a stick, besides a manual transmission is more efficient.
Even with today’s multispeed automatics there is still less parasitic horsepower loss in a manual than an automatic transmission.
True dat. My daughter and I have same engines in our BMW's. My stick gets 30 mph. Hers 21.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:47 AM   #3
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:49 AM   #4
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You asked "can an automatic be as much fun as a manual?" The short answer to that question is no.

However, if the question was different such as "which do you prefer" then you will see a lot of answers similar to those that you have already gotten.

Automatics are obviously more convenient and easier to drive than a manual. Manuals were known as a great way to create torque from an engine that may have been lacking or a great way to play with one that wasn't.

My opinion is that if you have plenty of torque and power to put to the pavement (ie my blown 67' Chevy II Nova) then I can create that driving on glass experience without the need of a manual transmission. Therefore, the car is "fun" to drive. However, if I did not have that kind of power and I was looking to create the feeling I was driving a fun sports car then I would most likely look for one with a manual transmission.

Automatic = convenience (unless you have lots of power).

Manual = more possibilities to have that sports car feeling.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:45 AM   #5
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Haven't driven a stick in over 10 years, and don't care to anymore.

For you guys spouting how "manly" and "more fun" it is to constantly yank on a gearshift, why not just beat off at home?
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:55 AM   #6
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Haven't driven a stick in over 10 years, and don't care to anymore.

For you guys spouting how "manly" and "more fun" it is to constantly yank on a gearshift, why not just beat off at home?
Strange that you would think one is a substitute for the other.
The only vehicle in my garage with an automatic transmission is Mrs. Radar’s Jeep Liberty. It’s fine for her but on the few occasions I’ve driven it, it gets on my nerves. I’ll downshift when I don’t want it too and takes too long to downshift when I do.
Recently drove a Dodge Caravan with an auto-stick transmission and I liked that I could hold a gear and downshift when I wanted but upshifting was still sending a request to an electronic nanny as the transmission wouldn’t actually shift up into the next gear until it felt like it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:33 AM   #7
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I drove a vehicle recently with an AT that had an option to manually shift 1-6.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:34 AM   #8
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I drove a vehicle recently with an AT that had an option to manually shift 1-6.
I see those in rental cars but I'm never sure what to do with them.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:37 AM   #9
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I see those in rental cars but I'm never sure what to do with them.
That’s what I meant by “auto stick”. It’s an automatic but it has a mode that allows the driver to select the gear by moving the shifter either forward or back to up or downshift.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:47 AM   #10
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That’s what I meant by “auto stick”. It’s an automatic but it has a mode that allows the driver to select the gear by moving the shifter either forward or back to up or downshift.
Do those get any of the aforementioned benefits of using a manual (while in manual mode?)
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:00 AM   #11
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Do those get any of the aforementioned benefits of using a manual (while in manual mode?)
It’s still the same transmission spinning all the same parts, but you’ll have more control over when it shifts. This could be good or bad for gas mileage. With me behind the wheel, mostly bad.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:34 AM   #12
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In my car (small convertible), it seems like a person should have a manual. Plus, it seems like a manual may be a little more flexible in snow and stuff. But in stop and go traffic, an automatic is sure nice.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:34 AM   #13
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I've never understood why manual is considered "fun." I'm not a car guy obviously.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:09 AM   #14
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I've never understood why manual is considered "fun." I'm not a car guy obviously.
It just makes you feel like you have more control of the car......almost like the racecar feel.

I dunno JMO....

All I know if that my first car was a 5-spd manual...and i miss driving it LOL.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
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