Football Fivehead Manning: least clutch QB in NFL history? - Page 8

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 02:58 PM

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

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Crying Ramtard · 12-26-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

You don't have a "rape stick." You have a "post more than anyone else in the thread while never really saying anything, YELL A LOT IN ALL CAPS, and then declare victory" stick.

the dumbest aspect of the text generation

'don't type in caps,its like yelling'

NO IT ISNT YOU STUPID DUMB ASSES. iTS JUST TWICE THE SIZE LETTERS THAT ARE EASIER TO READ. if YOU ARE ACTUALLY UPSET OR BOTHERED OR YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE GOES UP BECAUSE OF SLIGHTLY LARGER LETTERS. iT JUST MEANS YOU ARE A STUPID SENSITIVE PUSSY AND NEED TO GROW UP.

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

never really saying anything?

Wow. That's about the most hypocritical thing I've ever read.

I posted every statistic possible to show that Manning is actually better in the postseason than Tom Brady.

Now, if you want to use Brady 18-8 and Manning 11-12 and forget that Brady started 9-0 and that his team and coach were later penalized for cheating during those years (spygate) and that the evidence was so damning the corrupt commissioner (Roger Goodell) had to destroy it, then sure, I will concede that 10+ years ago the Patriots were the best team in the NFL and they had the last true NFL dynasty (which was fueled by cheating) and Tom Brady was the QB of the team in which Patriots fans on this board have said the defenses during those dynasties were 2nd to only the 1985 Bears.

So yes, I will concede that 10-13 years ago Tom Brady was a great game managing QB and managed his way to 9 straight playoff wins until they had to stop cheating.

For the millionth time, nobody cares about Brady. Fivehead has the most playoff losses in NFL history.

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

the dumbest aspect of the text generation

The irony of you calling anybody or anything dumb.

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 07:28 PM

the difference is

in Peyton's 23 playoff appearances he's always been the BEST and most important player on his team

he gets injured, his playoff team musters 2 whole wins

tom gets injured, Cassel wins 11

Tom gets injured, Drew gets them to the Super Bowl (road game nonetheless)

can you really say that, in all 26 games Tom has QB'd in the postseason, he has been his team's BEST and MOST IMPORTANT player?

Be truthful now.

Crying Ramtard · 12-26-2014, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

For the millionth time, nobody cares about Brady. Fivehead has the most playoff losses in NFL history.

well.. yeah...because you actually have to get to playoff games to lose them.

that's success that the Chiefs and their recent QB will never have

Crying Ramtard · 12-26-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

The irony of you calling anybody or anything dumb.

not one damn thing is ironic about it. Not one damn thing. I know I am more right then I have ever been about anything in my life

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

the difference is

in Peyton's 23 playoff appearances he's always been the BEST and most important player on his team

Biggest choker on his team, too.

GloucesterChief · 12-26-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

the difference is

in Peyton's 23 playoff appearances he's always been the BEST and most important player on his team

he gets injured, his playoff team musters 2 whole wins

tom gets injured, Cassel wins 11

Tom gets injured, Drew gets them to the Super Bowl (road game nonetheless)

can you really say that, in all 26 games Tom has QB'd in the postseason, he has been his team's BEST and MOST IMPORTANT player?

Be truthful now.

When the Colts went to and won a Superbowl? No, Manning was not. The Defense was. Considering the defense manufactured 13 turnovers in 4 games and won despite Manning turning the ball over.

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 07:42 PM

first off, already dispelled that myth

secondly, nimrod, I'm not saying Manning was the MVP of all 23 of his postseason games, I'm saying that in every one of those 23 games he was always his team's most important player

can you say the same thing about Tom Brady?

Awaiting a response...

Crying Ramtard · 12-26-2014, 07:46 PM

....Vinatieri....

Simply Red · 12-26-2014, 07:49 PM

Brady gets better pussy. I think we all can agree there.

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

....Vinatieri....

a.k.a. the guy the Colts signed away to bail out Fivehead.

Simply Red · 12-26-2014, 07:53 PM

wasn't that Vanderjerk?

Just Passin' By · 12-26-2014, 07:56 PM

What separates Tom Brady from 5 SB wins:

David Tyree Helmet catch
Wes Welker drop

What separates Peyton Manning from 2 SB wins:

Peyton Manning pick-6

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 08:08 PM

how about Brady only putting up 14 points in a game he was favored to win by 13.5 and not being able to get his team into FG range to take that 1st Super Bowl into overtime after mocking Plaxico for suggesting the Patriots, who won by an average of 26.6 points per game on the year, would only score 17 points

and then 4 years later overthrowing Welker on a "would have been" game ending 1st down for a Super Bowl championship

...

not clutch

12-26-2014, 02:58 PM
GoChargers Dean Spanos is a Traitor Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10013554	Fivehead Manning: least clutch QB in NFL history? 1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson. 1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season. 1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL. 1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs. 2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record. 2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs. 2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets. 2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs. 2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair. 2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England. 2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award. 2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point. 2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends. 2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs. 2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record. 2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback. 2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st). 2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs. 2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl. 2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs. 2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating). 2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees. 2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG). 2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs. 2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed. 2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs. 2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606). 2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half. The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...manning/31873/
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12-26-2014, 07:28 PM	#109
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the difference is in Peyton's 23 playoff appearances he's always been the BEST and most important player on his team he gets injured, his playoff team musters 2 whole wins tom gets injured, Cassel wins 11 Tom gets injured, Drew gets them to the Super Bowl (road game nonetheless) can you really say that, in all 26 games Tom has QB'd in the postseason, he has been his team's BEST and MOST IMPORTANT player? Be truthful now.
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12-26-2014, 07:42 PM	#114
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	first off, already dispelled that myth secondly, nimrod, I'm not saying Manning was the MVP of all 23 of his postseason games, I'm saying that in every one of those 23 games he was always his team's most important player can you say the same thing about Tom Brady? Awaiting a response...
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Crying Ramtard Veteran Join Date: Jun 2014 Casino cash: $10012670	....Vinatieri....
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12-26-2014, 07:49 PM	#116
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	Brady gets better pussy. I think we all can agree there.
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12-26-2014, 07:53 PM	#118
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	wasn't that Vanderjerk?
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12-26-2014, 07:56 PM	#119
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12-26-2014, 08:08 PM	#120
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	how about Brady only putting up 14 points in a game he was favored to win by 13.5 and not being able to get his team into FG range to take that 1st Super Bowl into overtime after mocking Plaxico for suggesting the Patriots, who won by an average of 26.6 points per game on the year, would only score 17 points and then 4 years later overthrowing Welker on a "would have been" game ending 1st down for a Super Bowl championship ... not clutch
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