Football Fivehead Manning: least clutch QB in NFL history? - Page 7

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 02:58 PM

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

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**lewdog** · 12-26-2014, 06:54 PM

Hootie, if Manning wins another Super Bowl will you get a tattoo of his face?

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Because QBR is garbage, regardless of how it views Brady and/or Manning.

PFF is the same way, too. People who have to resort to those already know their arguments suck.

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I'm backing up my opinion with statistics and game recaps.

You tried posting a blog article from coldhardfootballfacts.com to show Brady is better than Manning you ****ing

wait for it

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GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 06:56 PM

Holliday got cut the following season for being a slapdick who constantly fumbled on returns. Him of all people taking two kicks all the way in a game is the definition of a fluke. Even when being given that gift, Fivehead STILL found a way to choke.

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

Hootie, if Manning wins another Super Bowl will you get a tattoo of his face?

there is this misconception that I am a Peyton Manning fan

I like him, but I could care less if he wins or loses. I think he's the best QB I've ever seen and I love watching good QB play (sucks being a Chiefs fan)

I'm just trying to dispel the myth that Tom Brady is clutch. He's not clutch. He's just a good QB. He's the 2nd best QB I've ever seen.

I hate when people make shit up and it sticks.

Kobe is clutch. uhm, why? how? Please. Give me an example. I can give 10 Finals examples of MJ being clutch. Give me 1 NBA Finals Kobe Bryant clutch moment. *crickets*

I cringe when I hear about Tom Brady being clutch. Wtf has he done that is clutch? Lead his team to 45+ yard FG drives to win Super Bowls 10+ years ago?

And he still gets to parade around as being "clutch" even though he's had 8 straight playoff exits with some pretty bad performances mixed in?

Really?

Why?

It's truly baffling.

**lewdog** · 12-26-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

there is this misconception that I am a Peyton Manning fan

I like him, but I could care less if he wins or loses. I think he's the best QB I've ever seen and I love watching good QB play (sucks being a Chiefs fan)

I'm just trying to dispel the myth that Tom Brady is clutch. He's not clutch. He's just a good QB. He's the 2nd best QB I've ever seen.

I hate when people make shit up and it sticks.

Kobe is clutch. uhm, why? how? Please. Give me an example. I can give 10 Finals examples of MJ being clutch. Give me 1 NBA Finals Kobe Bryant clutch moment. *crickets*

I cringe when I hear about Tom Brady being clutch. Wtf has he done that is clutch? Lead his team to 45+ yard FG drives to win Super Bowls 10+ years ago?

And he still gets to parade around as being "clutch" even though he's had 8 straight playoff exits with some pretty bad performances mixed in?

Really?

Why?

It's truly baffling.

I don't know anyone that thinks Kobe is clutch. He's a known choker. And a douche.

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

Holliday got cut the following season for being a slapdick who constantly fumbled on returns. Him of all people taking two kicks all the way in a game is the definition of a fluke. Even when being given that gift, Fivehead STILL found a way to choke.

what does this have to do with anything?

they were at the beginning of each half

1 put them up 7-0 (we have no idea what Denver would have done on this drive)

1 put them up 28-21 (we have no idea what Denver would have done on this drive)

are you trying to imply that, without those returns, Baltimore would have won easily?

If so, please, explain.

(actually, please don't, because it'll be ****ING stupid, you moron)

Just Passin' By · 12-26-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

?

I'm backing up my opinion with statistics and game recaps.

You tried posting a blog article from coldhardfootballfacts.com to show Brady is better than Manning you ****ing

wait for it

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We already proved that you're the hyprocrite in the Brady thread. Get a new Schtick.

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 07:00 PM

Kobe is just like Fivehead. A choker and a selfish control freak who was dragged to championships by his teammates, but is extremely overrated by the media anyway.

MagicHef · 12-26-2014, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Try evening out the playing field, slick. Manning was a dome boy for almost all of his life. Also, stop with the QBR bullshit.

Dome v. Dome
Rest v. Rest

Go for it!

Why would you want to point out that Manning is better outside than Brady? That doesn't help your argument.

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

We already proved that you're the hyprocrite in the Brady thread. Get a new Schtick.

I've posted actual game situations, recaps, and clutch-weighted statistics.

You've posted a blog from a website called coldhardfootballfacts.com.

my rape stick is getting raw

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Why would you want to point out that Manning is better outside than Brady? That doesn't help your argument.

coldonehundredpercenttrueandfullyresearchedhardfootballprofessionalstatisticsilovetomebradyheshotfac ts.com says Brady > Manning so he just is

Just Passin' By · 12-26-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Why would you want to point out that Manning is better outside than Brady? That doesn't help your argument.

He's not.

Just Passin' By · 12-26-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I've posted actual game situations, recaps, and clutch-weighted statistics.

You've posted a blog from a website called coldhardfootballfacts.com.

my rape stick is getting raw

Your own words proved you were a lying hypocrite. Try again.

GoChargers · 12-26-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I've posted actual game situations, recaps, and clutch-weighted statistics.

You've posted a blog from a website called coldhardfootballfacts.com.

my rape stick is getting raw

You don't have a "rape stick." You have a "post more than anyone else in the thread while never really saying anything, YELL A LOT IN ALL CAPS, and then declare victory" stick.

Hootie · 12-26-2014, 07:15 PM

never really saying anything?

Wow. That's about the most hypocritical thing I've ever read.

I posted every statistic possible to show that Manning is actually better in the postseason than Tom Brady.

Now, if you want to use Brady 18-8 and Manning 11-12 and forget that Brady started 9-0 and that his team and coach were later penalized for cheating during those years (spygate) and that the evidence was so damning the corrupt commissioner (Roger Goodell) had to destroy it, then sure, I will concede that 10+ years ago the Patriots were the best team in the NFL and they had the last true NFL dynasty (which was fueled by cheating) and Tom Brady was the QB of the team in which Patriots fans on this board have said the defenses during those dynasties were 2nd to only the 1985 Bears.

So yes, I will concede that 10-13 years ago Tom Brady was a great game managing QB and managed his way to 9 straight playoff wins until they had to stop cheating.

12-26-2014, 02:58 PM
GoChargers Dean Spanos is a Traitor Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10013554	Fivehead Manning: least clutch QB in NFL history? 1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson. 1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season. 1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL. 1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs. 2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record. 2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs. 2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets. 2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs. 2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair. 2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England. 2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award. 2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point. 2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends. 2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs. 2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record. 2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback. 2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st). 2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs. 2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl. 2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs. 2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating). 2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees. 2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG). 2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs. 2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed. 2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs. 2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606). 2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half. The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...manning/31873/
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GoChargers Dean Spanos is a Traitor Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10013554	Holliday got cut the following season for being a slapdick who constantly fumbled on returns. Him of all people taking two kicks all the way in a game is the definition of a fluke. Even when being given that gift, Fivehead STILL found a way to choke. __________________ Disclaimer: my username refers to the SAN DIEGO Chargers only. I will never cheer for the LA Chargers as long as the Spanos family owns the team.
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GoChargers Dean Spanos is a Traitor Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10013554	Kobe is just like Fivehead. A choker and a selfish control freak who was dragged to championships by his teammates, but is extremely overrated by the media anyway. __________________ Disclaimer: my username refers to the SAN DIEGO Chargers only. I will never cheer for the LA Chargers as long as the Spanos family owns the team.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	never really saying anything? Wow. That's about the most hypocritical thing I've ever read. I posted every statistic possible to show that Manning is actually better in the postseason than Tom Brady. Now, if you want to use Brady 18-8 and Manning 11-12 and forget that Brady started 9-0 and that his team and coach were later penalized for cheating during those years (spygate) and that the evidence was so damning the corrupt commissioner (Roger Goodell) had to destroy it, then sure, I will concede that 10+ years ago the Patriots were the best team in the NFL and they had the last true NFL dynasty (which was fueled by cheating) and Tom Brady was the QB of the team in which Patriots fans on this board have said the defenses during those dynasties were 2nd to only the 1985 Bears. So yes, I will concede that 10-13 years ago Tom Brady was a great game managing QB and managed his way to 9 straight playoff wins until they had to stop cheating.
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