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Old 02-23-2013, 09:52 PM  
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NFL Combine QB workout thread

Coverage starts at 8 AM Sunday on NFL Network. No idea when QBs will actually throw, but GoWalrus has promised to get clips of Geno's workout. No idea if he'll get any of the others.

Here is what we can expect the throwing drills to look like:

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Through the combine, they get a good idea about whether the player name is likely to light up the football scoreboards in the future.

They want to see the quarterback’s 3-step drop, 5-step drop, 7-step drop and within those drops the reps want to see the QB go through the route tree. What’s the route tree? The QB is asked to run a slant, an out, a throw in, a corner route (7 route) and the deep route (the go).

Many quarterbacks worry that as they don’t personally know the receiver and have never played with them, they might throw over or under them giving the reps an inaccurate estimate of their skill. However, the reps do not care whether the receiver catches the pass or not. All they are interested in is seeing the quarterback’s footwork while they are running the 3-step drop, the 5-step drop and the 7-step drop.

In the 3-step drop they want to see how the quarterback handles and positions the ball: under-center. This is because most quarterbacks in college have never been under-center; they’re usually all back in the spread. They see and study the footwork, how the QB plants himself and drives the throw.

In the 5-step drop (intermediate route), the QB has to take 3 big steps and 2 small steps, get the ball and throw it out right away. Therefore, their footwork is essential.
In the 7-step drop (a deeper throw) the footwork, again, is very critical. Bill Walsh said that he could tell by looking at the quarterback’s feet (footwork) whether he had a good or a bad game. The second thing they notice is the carriage i.e. how the quarterback carries the football. Is it up towards the shoulder or is it below towards the center of the chest and stomach. However, ever since Philip Rivers no one can positively judge the quarterback through the position of his carriage.

Finally, they look into the arm strength. This is why the quarterbacks are asked to throw the 7 route and the deep route. The reps watch the quarterbacks drop back 5 to 7 yards and throw the football. They want to see how quickly and accurately it comes out of the quarterback’s hands.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:13 PM   #1201
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Yeah Miller thinks Geno is a good QB. He's ranked 16th overall on his board I believe (After being top 10 all season and Jan). I don't know why he choose to move him down the board. When a guy is in your top 10 all season then gets taken out it usually has to do with injury or character. Geno has neither of those issues. So IDK what Miller is thinking.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:14 PM   #1202
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It's just audio, but he says something along the lines of "geno compares more to Aaron Rodgers than Kapernick" when talking about running QB's. He now has him mocked to the Raiders at 3, I don't remember, some other BS about how he's risen based on a good combine.

It's at the 45 minute mark in the interview with Albert at the end.


Good enough for the Raiders at 3, but not good enough for the Chiefs.

Gotta get us some ALEX ****ING SMITH.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:14 PM   #1203
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Yeah Miller thinks Geno is a good QB. He's ranked 16th overall on his board I believe (After being top 10 all season and Jan). I don't know why he choose to move him down the board. When a guy is in your top 10 all season then gets taken out it usually has to do with injury or character. Geno has neither of those issues. So IDK what Miller is thinking.
It's the Chiefs. We're not allowed to draft a potential franchise QB.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:14 PM   #1204
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Yeah Miller thinks Geno is a good QB. He's ranked 16th overall on his board I believe (After being top 10 all season and Jan). I don't know why he choose to move him down the board. When a guy is in your top 10 all season then gets taken out it usually has to do with injury or character. Geno has neither of those issues. So IDK what Miller is thinking.
He saw that McShay and Kiper didn't like him. That's probably why.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:15 PM   #1205
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Which is funny cause now McShay is changing his tune a little.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:16 PM   #1206
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Miller was telling the morning guys on 810 that the Chiefs should draft Geno in LATE DECEMBER.

Then Shawn Zobel makes his bold "Albert will not be back, the Chiefs will not draft a QB" prediction and Miller does a 180 overnight.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:16 PM   #1207
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Which is funny cause now McShay is changing his tune a little.
Of course he is.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:18 PM   #1208
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Probably tight, under pressure. All eyes on him at #NFLCombine."
This one killed me. So all the other kids fighting for their dream....they're putting less pressure on themselves than Manti? Give me a damn break. Hell, if Manti is the leader/character guy some want to believe, isn't capability to handle a pressure situation part of that package?
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:25 PM   #1209
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Good enough for the Raiders at 3, but not good enough for the Chiefs.
Of all the stupid things "experts" are saying and mocking, putting Geno in their top 10-15 but then saying not good enough for #1 is the dumbest. Especially in this draft, when everyone agrees there are no other transcendent players. How on earth can you put Geno at 3 and not just mock him to the Chiefs? Your credibility as an expert from here on out is completely shot. I'll never listen to another thing that person says about the draft.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:45 PM   #1210
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Which is funny cause now McShay is changing his tune a little.
Duh.

Most of the guys that have been paying attention to this have been saying for weeks, if not months, that McShay, Kiper and the rest of them would all change their tunes once the adults got into the room.

These guys are frauds. They're mouthpieces for the agents that give them 'insider' information and don't really add a thing to the process.
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Duh.

Most of the guys that have been paying attention to this have been saying for weeks, if not months, that McShay, Kiper and the rest of them would all change their tunes once the adults got into the room.

These guys are frauds. They're mouthpieces for the agents that give them 'insider' information and don't really add a thing to the process.
Hence why before the Senior Bowl......it was all about Mike Glennon being talked about as the #1 pick. After the SB and Combine......Glennon has disappeared.
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Hence why before the Senior Bowl......it was all about Mike Glennon being talked about as the #1 pick. After the SB and Combine......Glennon has disappeared.
Kiper is having an especially bad run. Had Manti at #1 for a bit, then Glennon as a top 10 pick and top QB. OOF.
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Hence why before the Senior Bowl......it was all about Mike Glennon being talked about as the #1 pick. After the SB and Combine......Glennon has disappeared.
Glennon looked terrible at the combine IMO. He couldn't connect on his throws. Maybe he was a little too relaxed.
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Glennon looked terrible at the combine IMO. He couldn't connect on his throws. Maybe he was a little too relaxed.
His footwork is awkward, he literally moves like a giraffe.
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