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Old 09-14-2016, 10:19 AM  
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Apparently VFW halls are going to boycott any team that protest during the national Anthem.

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Old 09-14-2016, 11:33 AM   #31
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The armed forces don't own the ****ing national anthem or flag for christ sake. In fact I think the protest have very little to do with them at all.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:35 AM   #32
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:49 AM   #33
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The armed forces don't own the ****ing national anthem or flag for christ sake. In fact I think the protest have very little to do with them at all.
It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with them aside from the fact that they think it has to do with them.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:51 AM   #34
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The armed forces don't own the ****ing national anthem or flag for christ sake. In fact I think the protest have very little to do with them at all.
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It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with them aside from the fact that they think it has to do with them.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:54 AM   #35
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The armed forces don't own the ****ing national anthem or flag for christ sake. In fact I think the protest have very little to do with them at all.
I think the point is that they fought to defend that flag and that the anthem was written during and about a battle for this country. They feel disrespected for the price paid by those who have served. And frankly, I don't blame them. They are being disrespected by these ridiculous protests. As far as I'm concerned, Kaep is a traitor. I didn't realize that the Chiefs were showing solidarity with that piece of trash at the time. But once I read that they did, I was very disappointed in them for it.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:56 AM   #36
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I think the point is that they fought to defend that flag and that the anthem was written during and about a battle for this country. They feel disrespected for the price paid by those who have served. And frankly, I don't blame them. They are being disrespected by these ridiculous protests. As far as I'm concerned, Kaep is a traitor. I didn't realize that the Chiefs were showing solidarity with that piece of trash at the time. But once I read that they did, I was very disappointed in them for it.
Perhaps they should have worn ribbons instead. That seems to be the best way of promoting change these days.
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:06 PM   #37
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Perhaps they should have worn ribbons instead. That seems to be the best way of promoting change these days.
or maybe just make a twitter post with a # and a word following it

like #lazyprotesting

because that makes a real difference
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:09 PM   #38
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:23 PM   #39
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All the arm-link for unity things were just that. Unity. Not unity with Kaepernik.

I much more saw it as a we are together thing than a we are with Kaep thing.
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This mess is the shit I was critiquing from the outset regarding the ambiguity of CK's stance.

In the first day or two I characterized it as 'him seeing a spider and burning down his house.' Looking more and more like that description will prove all too apt if people don't regain their composure.
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:28 PM   #41
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No hard on, just concern.

You stated you were perplexed by a fairly simple concept earlier. So perplexed you made what appeared to be a public plea for clarification.

I tried to help.

Then these other two come in and completely twist the system by getting mad at the people getting mad at the people who are mad.

Just trying to keep your knickers untwisted.
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I think the point is that they fought to defend that flag and that the anthem was written during and about a battle for this country. They feel disrespected for the price paid by those who have served. And frankly, I don't blame them. They are being disrespected by these ridiculous protests. As far as I'm concerned, Kaep is a traitor. I didn't realize that the Chiefs were showing solidarity with that piece of trash at the time. But once I read that they did, I was very disappointed in them for it.
He has repeatedly stated that he has great respect for those who have fought in the military, and that's not what he's protesting. He's protesting that in his opinion the government hasn't held up its end of the bargain. Why don't you try and take a little effort to understand what he's actually said before declaring him a traitor?

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“I have great respect for our men and women that fought for this country,” Kaepernick said. “I have family, I have friends that have fought for this country. And they fight for freedom. They fight for liberty and justice, for everyone.

“And that’s not happening. I mean, people are dying in vain because this country is not holding its end of the bargain up as far as giving freedom and justice and liberty to everybody.

“It’s something that’s not happening. I’ve seen videos, I’ve seen circumstances, where men and women that have been in the military have come back and been treated unjustly by the country they fought for, and have been murdered by the country they fought for. On our land. That’s not right.”
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