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Old 07-09-2016, 09:18 AM  
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Eric Berry ‘a bit surprised’ on lack of extension progress

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Old 07-14-2016, 11:54 AM   #301
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Playing a different position than Poe. And after having only one breakout seasons. Poe's been good to great for like 3 seasons now.

I'd be very curious as to the highest single-season sack total a 3-4 NT has ever recorded.
It doesn't matter. That's where the elite money value is at, like I said.

We just watched one of the better two gap NT prospects I've ever seen fall all the way to the 2nd (Jarran Reed).

Poe does have more value than just about every other NT because of his ability to play on 3rd down, but he's still not at elite interior pass rusher and won't get paid like one unless he explodes this year.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:13 PM   #302
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Unless Poe has an absolutely breakout year (8+ sacks), he'll get a nice $8-9.5 million dollar contract but there's no way he's getting anywhere the top of the market.

Does anyone really believe that Poe is worth twice as much as Jaye Howard?
This is what I thought too but then DJ thinks Poe will command 12-13.

I really thought the Berry money (10-12 per) could be allocated to Poe (8-9) and rest to of that money to Fisher's deal.

18 million for Poe + Fisher > 12 million for Berry imo
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:18 PM   #303
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Has EB signed the FP contract? Or are we also looking down he barrel of a FP holdout along with the Broncos and Von Miller?
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:22 PM   #304
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Has EB signed the FP contract? Or are we also looking down he barrel of a FP holdout along with the Broncos and Von Miller?
There is no incentive for Berry to hold out during the season. The only reason it even kind of makes sense for Von is because it prevents Denver from slapping the exclusive tag on him next year.

Berry could skip training camp but he won't miss a day of the regular season.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:40 PM   #305
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It's pretty simple. The plan is to keep Berry and Poe unless he wants stupid $$. Chris Jones is a replacement for Jaye Howard in 2018 or Dontari Poe in 2017. It just depends on what happens.

If Berry was going to be let go, Dorsey would have drafted his replacement.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:03 PM   #306
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It's pretty simple. The plan is to keep Berry and Poe unless he wants stupid $$. Chris Jones is a replacement for Jaye Howard in 2018 or Dontari Poe in 2017. It just depends on what happens.

If Berry was going to be let go, Dorsey would have drafted his replacement.
didnt Dorsey just draft three cost controlled defensive backs in the most recent draft lol
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didnt Dorsey just draft three cost controlled defensive backs in the most recent draft lol
Well, to be fair, they also lost 3 in free agency.
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didnt Dorsey just draft three cost controlled defensive backs in the most recent draft lol
I think Russell is a S. Smith/ depth move and Murray is a replacement for Abdullah.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:34 PM   #309
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We value poe alot here, but statistically, he's not been as dominant as you'd think. I wonder what he'll be looking for.

He's got alot of miles on him, added with the back issue, I'm leary of giving dl like that big deals
He isnt usually going to provide lofty stats, teams are too busy doubling him for that

The guy has freakish stamina for a big man, I'm not worried about his mileage yet... we collectively bitched and moaned for YEARS to finally get an elite DT... now that we have one, I wanna keep him
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:25 PM   #310
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He's playing FS now
People keep saying this shit but just because they put FS before his name doesn't mean he is really playing LIKE a free safety.

He still playing like a really athletic SS that moves all over the field.

Several times he failed to finish at the sideline when he was asked to make a FS type play.

Everyone wants to keep Berry but he is still more effective as a box safety and those don't get 12 million a year.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:27 PM   #311
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Denver just supposedly offered von 70 million guaranteed.
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and potentially Poe's replacement.
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no we didn't
Yes, we did ...... basically.

Howard is better at NT
Howard is now playing at RDE so Poe can play NT
We just drafted a RDE in Jones
If Poe leaves then Howard will move to NT and Jones will play RDE

We just drafted a replacement for Poe.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:37 PM   #313
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What did you expect him to do?

"Oh hey guys....I know you paid me my contract while I had cancer......so go ahead and put together a new contract that pays me $8 million a year and I'll sign it today."
It's always the players fault when a deal doesn't get done, unless it's Denver/CP
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Denver just supposedly offered von 70 million guaranteed.
Insane.
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Houston making about $20 million less guaranteed $$ looks like one hell of a bargain for us.
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