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Hog's Gone Fishin · 09:38 AM

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...son-right-now/

By: Wesley Roesch | 21 hours ago

Chiefs coach Andy Reid seems to be much more confident in his defense than the fans are right now.

Many folks believe Kansas City needs to focus on defense in the 2018 draft, filling holes like safety, cornerback and defensive line. It doesn’t appear that Reid agrees.

During Monday’s presser, Reid said that he thinks the Chiefs could step in and play right now. He doesn’t think the Chiefs have many holes to fill in the draft so they can select the best player available instead.

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Andy Reid says he believes the #Chiefs are one of the few teams that could step out and play right now. Don't need to fix "holes" in draft. Basically, can take the best player regardless of position.

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Reid on what the Chiefs learned about their 2017 defensive scheme after self-scouting themselves: "I know how solid the scheme is. We've been a pretty good defensive unit over the years here. So I trust we'll be right back on that and rolling."

Reid on carrying five running backs for the time being: “Let’s have some competition there and see what happens.”

Reid emphasizing he doesn’t believe the #Chiefs have to draft for need after some of the offseason moves made. “Don’t have to force one,” he says.

This is an interesting take but it’s not far off from what I expected from Chiefs brass. The team has clearly been focusing on the offense rather than the defense during free agency. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them add more receivers, tight ends or offensive linemen high in the draft next week.

From a logical standpoint, I’ll have to disagree with Reid about the defense not having holes. Obviously Reid knows way more than I do about football and his team but I don’t feel comfortable with David Amerson at cornerback and Eric Murray/Daniel Sorensen at safety. Those guys have the potential to play well but have all struggled recently.

The return of safety Eric Berry should help the defense turn things around though, as could the possible return of a healthy linebacker
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Ragland and Jones lost weight and ready to kick ass!

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...ing-offseason/

Several Chiefs defensive players are taking steps to get leaner and faster.

During Monday’s presser, Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones and linebacker Reggie Ragland both said they shed some weight during the offseason.

Jones said he lost 25 pounds, turning fat into muscle, while Ragland dropped 10 pounds in order to improve his coverage.

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Chris Jones says he’s dropping weight, “turning fat into muscle.” Says he could play more on the outside this year.

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Reggie Ragland says he’s dropped about 10 pounds. Trying to take better care of himself so he can be faster in coverage and chasing running backs.

It’s awesome to see some of the Chiefs’ top defensive players work so hard to keep improving their bodies and their game. Jones looks great and his weight loss is very noticeable based on the photos (seen above). Jones dropping some pounds could be the difference-maker when he goes after opposing quarterbacks.

Ragland shedding weight in order to improve his coverage is interesting. Ragland has been known as more of a run-stuffer in the pros but the Chiefs signed linebacker Anthony Hitchens to be their top run defender. Ragland’s weight loss and added speed could mean he’ll see more looks as a coverage linebacker on passing downs

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ALL players showed up for voluntary camp. The Mahomes effect ?

It doesn’t look like there will be a no-show controversy this year for the Chiefs.

The first day of Kansas City’s offseason workouts was Monday, and everyone on the team showed up according to coach Andy Reid. That includes safety Eric Berry and linebacker Justin Houston, two players who didn’t show up to organized team activities last year.

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Andy Reid says Eric Berry, Travis Kelce and Justin Houston are present for the start of offseason workouts

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#Chiefs coach Andy Reid said everyone is here, as well.

Reid added that it was good to have the leaders of the locker room present on the first day. Many agree, as shown last year after several fans and media members were upset that Berry, Houston and former Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters didn’t show up for OTAs. Reid acknowledged several times last year that OTAs were voluntary, although he did seem a bit annoyed when asked about it.

Of course, there’s still a possibility that a player decides to skip OTAs, but considering the backlash last year it seems unlikely. That’s probably a good thing anyway because, like Reid said, the leaders of the locker room need to be there.

SuperBowl4 · 04-17-2018, 11:07 AM

Still waiting for the Andy Reid KNOWS Defense is ready thread

Randallflagg · 04-17-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

defense might be ready....but how about Boob Sutton?

Exactly. Until Sutton is replaced, this "Defense" will NOT be ready. Nope.

**BossChief** · 04-17-2018, 11:58 AM

Less than 2 weeks from the draft. Andy is well aware that his defense has big holes that need filled, but what do you expect him to say?

He says they need some corners, that tells other teams to move in front of us for one.

Shoes · 04-17-2018, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Less than 2 weeks from the draft. Andy is well aware that his defense has big holes that need filled, but what do you expect him to say?

He says they need some corners, that tells other teams to move in front of us for one.

100% accurate as well- little bit of trying to hide your cards going on here but lets be honest I think most NFL teams will have an idea of what other teams weaknesses/strengths are going into the draft. Not a secret by any means that the Chiefs could use corners and safeties, just depends on who the Chiefs covet most in the draft.

BlackOp · 04-17-2018, 12:12 PM

Ready to be the 26th ranked defense...

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-17-2018, 12:24 PM

I hope the best player available is an awesome TE like Kelce or a guard like Nelson

WhiteWhale · 04-17-2018, 12:28 PM

If Jones needs to lose weight to get his motor going, that's what he should do. He goes from unblockable to invisible far too often. Dude has all pro potential, time to show it on a consistent basis.

I feel good about Ragland going forward. KC fans noticed him last year, but I think he'll start getting more attention.

KC DOES need more guys who can rush the QB on a down to down basis. Ford, Jones, and Houston are the only guys with any showing they can. I know they got a 2nd rounder who hasn't done shit, but KC needed him LAST season and he wasn't getting on the field. I think the primary reason for the bad run D is scheme related, which seems a bigger issue.

Sutton has always been different and for the most part it worked out great, but I really don't understand what the **** he's doing at all over the past 2 seasons. I'm not a blitz maniac, but far too often we're only sending 3 and 4 guys. Blitzes seem ill-timed. KC is ALWAYS in sub packages with 6 DB's on the field and getting ran over. Plus, when in those packages the lack of CB and S depth is exploited by opposing offenses. I don't even need to comment on how much time Houston spends in pass coverage. I'm just tired of this kinda conservative pass prevent D. It was awful last year and in 2016 was frequently bailed out by individual great plays.

I mean I'm not saying anything that several others haven't said, but damn Andy, did you WATCH the defense last year?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-17-2018, 01:01 PM

I'm not a fan of sutton but he did call some blitzes in the playoff game. DJ nailed the QB, by the way Tripplet ****ed us out of the game on that. sorenson nailed the QB, by the way Tripplet ****ed us out of the game on that. And Peters had a blitz but the ball was handed off.

Reerun_KC · 04-17-2018, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I'm not a fan of sutton but he did call some blitzes in the playoff game. DJ nailed the QB, by the way Tripplet ****ed us out of the game on that. sorenson nailed the QB, by the way Tripplet ****ed us out of the game on that. And Peters had a blitz but the ball was handed off.

Yeah Tripplet cause our offense to suck and our QB to suck historically. It’s all Trippletts fault.

**BossChief** · 04-17-2018, 01:18 PM

Clearly, Veach thinks the CBs were the problem with the defense.

Peters was traded
They tried to trade Nelson
They let Gaines walk
They let Mitchell walk
They let Acker walk

Hard to blitz if the QB can throw it anywhere because the corners can’t cover

AssEaterChief · 04-17-2018, 01:22 PM

Ha Ha

Coach Speak

JakeF · 04-17-2018, 01:46 PM

So we have less talent but now our defense is better?

As sad has it sounds, last year Tamba Hali was still our best ROLB and now he's gone. Sutton needs a front 4 that can get consistent pressure on the QB. We still don't have that. If we are going to rely on Sutton to scheme for sacks, we're screwed. Sutton has shown almost no ability to be able to do that.

Also, if we don't pick up a CB in the draft that can start yr one we are going to struggle in the passing game again.

If Berry or Houston get hurt again we are in trouble. We don't have even an average replacement for either of them.

JakeF · 04-17-2018, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Clearly, Veach thinks the CBs were the problem with the defense.

Peters was traded
They tried to trade Nelson
They let Gaines walk
They let Mitchell walk
They let Acker walk

Hard to blitz if the QB can throw it anywhere because the corners can’t cover

Difficult when your coaching staff has shown no ability to teach or scheme blitzing either.

**BossChief** · 04-17-2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

Difficult when your coaching staff has shown no ability to teach or scheme blitzing either.

That’s not true at all.

Halfcan · 04-17-2018, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF

So we have less talent but now our defense is better?

As sad has it sounds, last year Tamba Hali was still our best ROLB and now he's gone. Sutton needs a front 4 that can get consistent pressure on the QB. We still don't have that. If we are going to rely on Sutton to scheme for sacks, we're screwed. Sutton has shown almost no ability to be able to do that.

Also, if we don't pick up a CB in the draft that can start yr one we are going to struggle in the passing game again.

If Berry or Houston get hurt again we are in trouble. We don't have even an average replacement for either of them.

How did you come up with this?

04-17-2018, 09:32 AM
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1680477	Andy Reid thinks Defense is ready https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...son-right-now/ By: Wesley Roesch \| 21 hours ago Chiefs coach Andy Reid seems to be much more confident in his defense than the fans are right now. Many folks believe Kansas City needs to focus on defense in the 2018 draft, filling holes like safety, cornerback and defensive line. It doesn’t appear that Reid agrees. During Monday’s presser, Reid said that he thinks the Chiefs could step in and play right now. He doesn’t think the Chiefs have many holes to fill in the draft so they can select the best player available instead. BJ Kissel ✔ @ChiefsReporter Andy Reid says he believes the #Chiefs are one of the few teams that could step out and play right now. Don't need to fix "holes" in draft. Basically, can take the best player regardless of position. Terez A. Paylor ✔ @TerezPaylor Reid on what the Chiefs learned about their 2017 defensive scheme after self-scouting themselves: "I know how solid the scheme is. We've been a pretty good defensive unit over the years here. So I trust we'll be right back on that and rolling." Reid on carrying five running backs for the time being: “Let’s have some competition there and see what happens.” Reid emphasizing he doesn’t believe the #Chiefs have to draft for need after some of the offseason moves made. “Don’t have to force one,” he says. This is an interesting take but it’s not far off from what I expected from Chiefs brass. The team has clearly been focusing on the offense rather than the defense during free agency. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them add more receivers, tight ends or offensive linemen high in the draft next week. From a logical standpoint, I’ll have to disagree with Reid about the defense not having holes. Obviously Reid knows way more than I do about football and his team but I don’t feel comfortable with David Amerson at cornerback and Eric Murray/Daniel Sorensen at safety. Those guys have the potential to play well but have all struggled recently. The return of safety Eric Berry should help the defense turn things around though, as could the possible return of a healthy linebacker ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ragland and Jones lost weight and ready to kick ass! https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...ing-offseason/ Several Chiefs defensive players are taking steps to get leaner and faster. During Monday’s presser, Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones and linebacker Reggie Ragland both said they shed some weight during the offseason. Jones said he lost 25 pounds, turning fat into muscle, while Ragland dropped 10 pounds in order to improve his coverage. Tom Martin ✔ @TomKCTV5 Chris Jones says he’s dropping weight, “turning fat into muscle.” Says he could play more on the outside this year. Matt Derrick @mattderrick Reggie Ragland says he’s dropped about 10 pounds. Trying to take better care of himself so he can be faster in coverage and chasing running backs. It’s awesome to see some of the Chiefs’ top defensive players work so hard to keep improving their bodies and their game. Jones looks great and his weight loss is very noticeable based on the photos (seen above). Jones dropping some pounds could be the difference-maker when he goes after opposing quarterbacks. Ragland shedding weight in order to improve his coverage is interesting. Ragland has been known as more of a run-stuffer in the pros but the Chiefs signed linebacker Anthony Hitchens to be their top run defender. Ragland’s weight loss and added speed could mean he’ll see more looks as a coverage linebacker on passing downs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL players showed up for voluntary camp. The Mahomes effect ? It doesn’t look like there will be a no-show controversy this year for the Chiefs. The first day of Kansas City’s offseason workouts was Monday, and everyone on the team showed up according to coach Andy Reid. That includes safety Eric Berry and linebacker Justin Houston, two players who didn’t show up to organized team activities last year. Terez A. Paylor ✔ @TerezPaylor Andy Reid says Eric Berry, Travis Kelce and Justin Houston are present for the start of offseason workouts BJ Kissel ✔ @ChiefsReporter #Chiefs coach Andy Reid said everyone is here, as well. Reid added that it was good to have the leaders of the locker room present on the first day. Many agree, as shown last year after several fans and media members were upset that Berry, Houston and former Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters didn’t show up for OTAs. Reid acknowledged several times last year that OTAs were voluntary, although he did seem a bit annoyed when asked about it. Of course, there’s still a possibility that a player decides to skip OTAs, but considering the backlash last year it seems unlikely. That’s probably a good thing anyway because, like Reid said, the leaders of the locker room need to be there. Last edited by Hog's Gone Fishin; 04-17-2018 at 09:38 AM..
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1854088	Less than 2 weeks from the draft. Andy is well aware that his defense has big holes that need filled, but what do you expect him to say? He says they need some corners, that tells other teams to move in front of us for one. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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WhiteWhale Bring it on Ahab! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $10015152	If Jones needs to lose weight to get his motor going, that's what he should do. He goes from unblockable to invisible far too often. Dude has all pro potential, time to show it on a consistent basis. I feel good about Ragland going forward. KC fans noticed him last year, but I think he'll start getting more attention. KC DOES need more guys who can rush the QB on a down to down basis. Ford, Jones, and Houston are the only guys with any showing they can. I know they got a 2nd rounder who hasn't done shit, but KC needed him LAST season and he wasn't getting on the field. I think the primary reason for the bad run D is scheme related, which seems a bigger issue. Sutton has always been different and for the most part it worked out great, but I really don't understand what the **** he's doing at all over the past 2 seasons. I'm not a blitz maniac, but far too often we're only sending 3 and 4 guys. Blitzes seem ill-timed. KC is ALWAYS in sub packages with 6 DB's on the field and getting ran over. Plus, when in those packages the lack of CB and S depth is exploited by opposing offenses. I don't even need to comment on how much time Houston spends in pass coverage. I'm just tired of this kinda conservative pass prevent D. It was awful last year and in 2016 was frequently bailed out by individual great plays. I mean I'm not saying anything that several others haven't said, but damn Andy, did you WATCH the defense last year?
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1680477	I'm not a fan of sutton but he did call some blitzes in the playoff game. DJ nailed the QB, by the way Tripplet **ed us out of the game on that. sorenson nailed the QB, by the way Tripplet **ed us out of the game on that. And Peters had a blitz but the ball was handed off.
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04-17-2018, 01:18 PM	#25
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1854088	Clearly, Veach thinks the CBs were the problem with the defense. Peters was traded They tried to trade Nelson They let Gaines walk They let Mitchell walk They let Acker walk Hard to blitz if the QB can throw it anywhere because the corners can’t cover __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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04-17-2018, 01:46 PM	#27
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	So we have less talent but now our defense is better? As sad has it sounds, last year Tamba Hali was still our best ROLB and now he's gone. Sutton needs a front 4 that can get consistent pressure on the QB. We still don't have that. If we are going to rely on Sutton to scheme for sacks, we're screwed. Sutton has shown almost no ability to be able to do that. Also, if we don't pick up a CB in the draft that can start yr one we are going to struggle in the passing game again. If Berry or Houston get hurt again we are in trouble. We don't have even an average replacement for either of them.
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