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Old 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM  
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The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread
For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:52 PM   #451
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But those were temporary, weren't they? I haven't read that particular story arc, but from what I gather, he was only there to make sure people didn't think Batman was dead, and Bruce reassumed Batman when he came back from injury. But Gotham already "knows" Batman is dead, so they just need another hero.

EDIT: Wasn't Azrael a cop, also?
The most recent "death" of the Bruce Batman was billed as being permanent and was known by all who really knew him. He was killed by Darkseid and during the Blackest Night series, you even have characters walking around with Bruce/Batman's skull. During this period Gordon realizes something is up when Dick is Batman and Bruce's son Damian is the new Robin, but he doesn't explicitly say that he knows that the first Batman is gone. How did the skeletal Bruce return from the dead? That story is too weird to explain.

Azreal as a cop? I'm not sure. I just remember that he became brain washed by the spirits of the Order of St Dumas & became a crazed vigilante knight with a flaming sword.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:30 PM   #452
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To be fair, Bane's ass got saved by a backstabbing bitch (literally). Batman had him curled up like a masked fetus. It is kind of interesting that both of these cerebral and physically powerful men were each saved by a woman.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:16 PM   #453
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Also, I'm sure it's been mentioned and I haven't read it, but was Hines Ward on the football team?
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:43 PM   #454
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Also, I'm sure it's been mentioned and I haven't read it, but was Hines Ward on the football team?
Yes. He was the kickoff returner that survived.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:57 PM   #455
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Yes. He was the kickoff returner that survived.
Thought that was him. It showed his face during the National Anthem, too.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:08 PM   #456
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Just saw this tonight. Not to troll or anything, but IMO this whole trilogy is completely overrated. The movie was fun and all, but the plot was ludicrous and there were several "what the ****" moments in the movie, and not the good kind. It wouldn't have been such a problem if the series didn't take itself so goddamn seriously.
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Just saw this tonight. Not to troll or anything, but IMO this whole trilogy is completely overrated. The movie was fun and all, but the plot was ludicrous and there were several "what the ****" moments in the movie, and not the good kind. It wouldn't have been such a problem if the series didn't take itself so goddamn seriously.
Gotham has some stupid ****ing cops.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:47 AM   #458
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Finally saw it.

I will say this: Nolan shares my intense love for brunettes.
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Gotham has some stupid ****ing cops.
That's what I thought. Eight years with no organized crime really made them go soft.
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Actually, it took my 20th viewing to notice that loophole. When Batman is in the prison, his helper/warden is telling him how a child escaped, and how we assume that child is Bane. In the same scene, I believe, he mentions that Bane was beaten by the prisoners and how the mask "controls the pain". Well, if supposedly we are led to believe a child escaped, and the child is Bane... how the **** did the adult Bane get beaten by prisoners to the point of needing a pain-controlling mask?

Maybe I'm wrong....

I believe they are talking about a child that escapes, but it is never said that is Bane. They are also talking about how the child had a protector, but never specifically say that it is Bane. None of that (mask to control the pain, etc) is really revealed until Talia explains it to Batman at the end of the movie.
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I believe they are talking about a child that escapes, but it is never said that is Bane. They are also talking about how the child had a protector, but never specifically say that it is Bane. None of that (mask to control the pain, etc) is really revealed until Talia explains it to Batman at the end of the movie.
Yeah, in the movie Bruce Wayne says, "Bane" when the dude is telling him about it. Filling in the blanks for the audience. If we didn't have our heads in our asses we would have known at the time.
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Maybe I'm wrong....

I believe they are talking about a child that escapes, but it is never said that is Bane. They are also talking about how the child had a protector, but never specifically say that it is Bane. None of that (mask to control the pain, etc) is really revealed until Talia explains it to Batman at the end of the movie.
Yep, the whole point of the story was to get the audience to assume the child was Bane. Only the people that were aware of Banes origin knew there was no way he could have been the child once they revealed Ras to be the father.
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Maybe I'm wrong....

I believe they are talking about a child that escapes, but it is never said that is Bane. They are also talking about how the child had a protector, but never specifically say that it is Bane. None of that (mask to control the pain, etc) is really revealed until Talia explains it to Batman at the end of the movie.
Nope. Talia reiterates it during the stabbing scene, but Batman's warden in prison says that Bane has to wear the mask because he was attacked by prisoners, and that the mask controls the pain. I'll get the exact quotes in a bit. (Right now I'm at the scene where Wayne sneaks into the hospital to see Gordon, so it's about an hour away.)
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