The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[HotCarl]

A cornerstone left tackle will help make any quarterback we find ourselves with look good. Acquire a hall of famer like Willie Roaf, and all of a sudden Trent Green becomes Trent Green. Mmmm

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

A cornerstone left tackle will help make any quarterback we find ourselves with look good. Acquire a hall of famer like Willie Roaf, and all of a sudden Trent Green becomes Trent Green. Mmmm

"mmmm" my motherfuking ass. This post has succintly summmed up everything i hate about Chiefs fans and thier love of goddamned linemen.
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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

A cornerstone left tackle will help make any quarterback we find ourselves with look good. Acquire a hall of famer like Willie Roaf, and all of a sudden Trent Green becomes Trent Green. Mmmm

Indeed. Matt Cassel might even flourish with a Willie Roaf, although I'm not in favor of the Chiefs experimenting with a Cassel/Joeckel combo.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Indeed. Matt Cassel might even flourish with a Willie Roaf, although I'm not in favor of the Chiefs experimenting with a Cassel/Joeckel combo.

So Joeckel is a hall of famer in the making huh? Me thinks you been listening to the talking heads a little too much.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by O.city

So Joeckel is a hall of famer in the making huh? Me thinks you been listening to the talking heads a little too much.

I don't know what you're talking about, but if I had to put money on which guy ends up in the HoF, I'd certainly take Joeckel over Smith. The odds are long on either one though.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know what you're talking about, but if I had to put money on which guy ends up in the HoF, I'd certainly take Joeckel over Smith. The odds are long on either one though.

You're a ****ing moron.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

You're a ****ing moron.

How much did perhaps the greatest T ever help the Bengals?...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by milkman

You're a ****ing moron.

Look at what you've become.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Look at what you've become.

He's pretty consistently been him...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Look at what you've become.

A guy that points out idiocy when I see it?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know what you're talking about, but if I had to put money on which guy ends up in the HoF, I'd certainly take Joeckel over Smith. The odds are long on either one though.

A HOF LT wins us what, exactly? We've had a pretty damn good one (not HOF, but good enough) for the past two seasons. So why does our offense struggle the way it does despite that LT and a RB that rivals Jim ****ing Brown in career YPC?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

A HOF LT wins us what, exactly? We've had a pretty damn good one (not HOF, but good enough) for the past two seasons. So why does our offense struggle the way it does despite that LT and a RB that rivals Jim ****ing Brown in career YPC?

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

Nope...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

A HOF LT wins jack and shit until the team gets a QB.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

That's not the question, Bill O'Reilly.

We have the choice between Geno and Joeckel. You asked which is more likely, Joeckel as a HOF LT or Geno as a HOF QB. I said it doesn't matter because a HOF LT doesn't win you shit. Then you started talking about journeyman QBs.

You can't do that. We're talking about the rewards outweighing the risks. Right now the likelihood of Joeckel or Geno being HOF is low and negligible. You have to logically assume that Geno will be a HOF QB in order to balance the hypothetical.

Here it is again. A HOF LT gets you nothing. A HOF QB gets you immortality.

Take the QB over the LT. Every ****ing time. Especially when it's the difference between the potential for greatness of players like Joeckel and Geno.