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[O.city]

So say they could draft mahomes or Watson in the first round without trading up. What could you save by cutting smith this year?

5 years of a rookie qb starting is so so cheap.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by O.city

So say they could draft mahomes or Watson in the first round without trading up. What could you save by cutting smith this year?

5 years of a rookie qb starting is so so cheap.

Now much do you lose if you don't have the patience to develop that rookie QB, and you ruin him by starting him too early in his career?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by milkman

Now much do you lose if you don't have the patience to develop that rookie QB, and you ruin him by starting him too early in his career?

If you ask him to do too much on a shit team, you could lose him.

But guys learn by playing. Even sitting a guy a year, you lose a year of financial value and experience. Now year 2 is the rookie year, year 3 and so in and so forth. If he hits it as a franchise qb and you have to shell big $ out for him, you're behind the 8 ball.

None of these dudes are probably ready, but the chiefs have a really strong roster and wouldn't necessarily need the guy to be a star early.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

So say they could draft mahomes or Watson in the first round without trading up. What could you save by cutting smith this year?

5 years of a rookie qb starting is so so cheap.

Another $16 million.

But you don't cut Smith this year. Mahomes isn't ready to start and Watson sucks so there's no way you cut Smith when he's already part of your salary structure.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Another $16 million.

But you don't cut Smith this year. Mahomes isn't ready to start and Watson sucks so there's no way you cut Smith when he's already part of your salary structure.

At this point, probably too late.

But if they do land a qb they want early and a team called about offering say, a 3rd to take smith off our hands, I'd listen pretty hard.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

At this point, probably too late.

But if they do land a qb they want early and a team called about offering say, a 3rd to take smith off our hands, I'd listen pretty hard.

I don't think you can. This is a playoff team and even if that's all it is, that's still another season of live-fire for guys like Peters, Kelce, Hill, Jones and Ford. These are the young guys that need to experience playoff football.

"Gotta knock on the door before you kick it in..."

If you just give away a season (and yes, that's what you'll be doing with Mahomes under center; the schedule is likely to be damn tough at the front based on what teams are projecting), you've lost the opportunity to get those snaps for your young core. Hell, even as a backup, Mahomes could get something from the intensity of playoff preparation.

Nah, there's too much long-term value to be gained by a successful season and even a single playoff game to just wad it up and toss it for a season's worth of cap relief and a 3rd round pick.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't think you can. This is a playoff team and even if that's all it is, that's still another season of live-fire for guys like Peters, Kelce, Hill, Jones and Ford. These are the young guys that need to experience playoff football.

"Gotta knock on the door before you kick it in..."

If you just give away a season (and yes, that's what you'll be doing with Mahomes under center; the schedule is likely to be damn tough at the front based on what teams are projecting), you've lost the opportunity to get those snaps for your young core. Hell, even as a backup, Mahomes could get something from the intensity of playoff preparation.

Nah, there's too much long-term value to be gained by a successful season and even a single playoff game to just wad it up and toss it for a season's worth of cap relief and a 3rd round pick.

I don't know enough about Mahomes or whatever qb they take to say yet, tbh. Yeah, he may throw an extra INT or two, but I'd think he could be more productive than Smith at this point.

Hell, I never would have thought Dak could do what he did and here we are.

The Chiefs are currently really talented on both sides. Add a dynamic rb and some defensive pieces and I'm not sure you couldn't nurse your rookie qb along early and have him going by December.

Yeah, those young guys need to learn, but letting them all learn together with the qb they're gonna be with for the next 6 years would be beneficial, eh?

Plus that cap space is rollable, as you know. That could be big next year when looking for another pass rusher or what not.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by O.city

So say they could draft mahomes or Watson in the first round without trading up. What could you save by cutting smith this year?

5 years of a rookie qb starting is so so cheap.

They aren't cutting Alex Smith this year.




People going from desperate to just draft a QB to now wanting a young QB to be so good that Reid has no choice but to cut Smith and play the the rookie year 1.

Of course, then they will want the rookie QB to be Super Bowl level by game 2.

the demands never cease increasing the unrealistic expectations

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

They aren't cutting Alex Smith this year.




People going from desperate to just draft a QB to now wanting a young QB to be so good that Reid has no choice but to cut Smith and play the the rookie year 1.

Of course, then they will want the rookie QB to be Super Bowl level by game 2.

the demands never cease increasing the unrealistic expectations

If a rookie can provide 80 percent of what smith does, at a third of the cost, why not?

The rookie qb doesn't have to be at a SB level by game 2, you'd have enough team around him that he could lean on it while he gets his feet wet.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

If a rookie can provide 80 percent of what smith does, at a third of the cost, why not?

The rookie qb doesn't have to be at a SB level by game 2, you'd have enough team around him that he could lean on it while he gets his feet wet.

With the margin between wins and losses being what it is, 80% of what Alex Smith did last year puts us at somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-9.

He didn't do much, but 80% of that is quite a damn bit less.

You're tanking this season if you dump Alex Smith. The big problem with all of these QB prospects is readiness, not talent. The talent is there but none of them can run a team at a playoff level right now, not even this year's truefan favorite, Nate Peterman.

Well, Cooper Rush could, but he's not making it past the Bears.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

With the margin between wins and losses being what it is, 80% of what Alex Smith did last year puts us at somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-9.

He didn't do much, but 80% of that is quite a damn bit less.

You're tanking this season if you dump Alex Smith. The big problem with all of these QB prospects is readiness, not talent. The talent is there but none of them can run a team at a playoff level right now, not even this year's truefan favorite, Nate Peterman.

Well, Cooper Rush could, but he's not making it past the Bears.

The way the chiefs currently play, the margin is super thin.
I also don't expect said rookie qb to produce at that level, especially if the front office were to move away from Smith.

They won't do it, I even necessarily think they should. But if there's a situation that they think the rookie can put up numbers similar to Smith's last season, they should take the picks and salary and move on.

By having the rookie qb sit a year, that's a year of value gone. Ideally, you recoup that over his tenure by him being a franchise qb, so it's worth it. But if I could have both, I'd do it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

The way the chiefs currently play, the margin is super thin.
I also don't expect said rookie qb to produce at that level, especially if the front office were to move away from Smith.

They won't do it, I even necessarily think they should. But if there's a situation that they think the rookie can put up numbers similar to Smith's last season, they should take the picks and salary and move on.

By having the rookie qb sit a year, that's a year of value gone. Ideally, you recoup that over his tenure by him being a franchise qb, so it's worth it. But if I could have both, I'd do it.

There's no way to know it until the bullets start flying. They can never have any idea if he's able to get anywhere near what a competent veteran QB can do until, what, game 3? It damn sure can't be known in camp and it's rare that you spot it in pre-season.

By then, nobody's going to trade for a QB that hasn't been in their system all off-season; he's worthless to them.

Nothing about trading/cutting Alex Smith this season makes sense - sorry.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

With the margin between wins and losses being what it is, 80% of what Alex Smith did last year puts us at somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-9.

He didn't do much, but 80% of that is quite a damn bit less.

You're tanking this season if you dump Alex Smith. The big problem with all of these QB prospects is readiness, not talent. The talent is there but none of them can run a team at a playoff level right now, not even this year's truefan favorite, Nate Peterman.

Well, Cooper Rush could, but he's not making it past the Bears.

That's who SAGA is holding out hope for, Cooper Rush in the 6th or bust!!