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Old 03-21-2014, 06:59 AM  
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Raiders trade for Cap'n pick 6
@AdamSchefter: Oakland Raiders now are expected to trade a 2014 late-round pick to Houston Texans in exchange for QB Matt Schaub, per league source.
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:20 AM   #91
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I don't know what else to tell you. How many threads have there been started on this website saying I wish we had Veldheer or Houston? Go ahead and search, I'll wait.
Are you claiming they are bad players? The market seemed to have a different take on them.

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The Rams haven't been relevant since the Kurt Warner days. I'm not sure why you keep referencing their opinions as if they had some weight.
Says the guy who's giving weight to the Raiders' opinion.

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Do you honestly believe that no one out there of equal or greater value than Veldheer or Houston can be found?
Justin Tuck?
Antonio Smith?
Tarell Brown?
Charles Woodson?

Yes, those are the kind of signings that really help over the long haul. What bad team needs talented guys in the prime of their careers when they can sign the over-the-hill gang.
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Old 03-22-2014, 02:24 AM   #92
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Are you claiming they are bad players? The market seemed to have a different take on them.
Never said they were bad players. That being said, neither do I remember anyone on this board clamoring for them. Why did the Chiefs not sign them, then? How are Routt and Boss doing by the way?





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This thread is about the Raiders, is it not?


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Justin Tuck?
Antonio Smith?
Tarell Brown?
Charles Woodson?

Yes, those are the kind of signings that really help over the long haul. What bad team needs talented guys in the prime of their careers when they can sign the over-the-hill gang.
Last time the Raiders made a Super Bowl appearance they were filled with "over the hill" guys in their 30s. Care to talk about the last time the Chiefs made it to a Super Bowl?
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Old 03-22-2014, 02:32 AM   #93
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you haven't been the same since the ass whuppin... so bitter
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By the thread title, I thought this was about the Raiders pickin' up some ol' dude goin' by the last name of Crunch.
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Matt Schaub will not need to win a quarterback competition in Oakland to become the Raiders’ starting quarterback. He already is the Raiders’ starting quarterback.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said after Schaub arrived in a trade with the Texans that Schaub will open the season as the No. 1 quarterback.

“We brought Matt Schaub in to be our starting quarterback,” Allen said. “We feel very confident that he is going to be able to come in and function in that role and be outstanding for us. Obviously, we love having competition within the team, but right now Matt Schaub is our starting quarterback.”

The Raiders also have Terrelle Pryor, Matt McGloin and Trent Edwards on the roster, and they could draft a quarterback like Teddy Bridgewater, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel or Derek Carr. But Allen, who was an assistant coach in Atlanta when the Falcons drafted Schaub in 2004, says Schaub is his guy.

“This is a guy that is a two-time Pro Bowl player. When you get an opportunity to add those type of players, that’s what we’re looking to do,” Allen said.

Now the Raiders have to hope Schaub looks more like a two-time Pro Bowler and less like the guy who was benched last year.
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@adbrandt: Dennis Allen: "We brought Schaub in to be our starting quarterback." Translation: "We're not paying him $11M to sit on the bench."

I don't think the Raiders are spending that #5 pick on a QB. I'm smelling Sammy Watkins.
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Never said they were bad players. That being said, neither do I remember anyone on this board clamoring for them. Why did the Chiefs not sign them, then? How are Routt and Boss doing by the way?


You think taking shots at me via the Chiefs is an effective tactic? You must have missed the memo.

And, to repeat, getting rid of your good young players is not usually how you improve a team. You want to keep your young talent when possible. Old talent doesn't usually remain as 'talent' for long. That's not a good thing when you're a shitty team stuck in a rebuild.

You know, like the Raiders.

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This thread is about the Raiders, is it not?
Sure, but knocking the Rams on the basis of relevancy in order to defend the Raiders actions is really ****ing stupid. Since 2002, no team in the NFL has been less relevant than the Oakland Raiders.

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Last time the Raiders made a Super Bowl appearance they were filled with "over the hill" guys in their 30s. Care to talk about the last time the Chiefs made it to a Super Bowl?
See my first answer in this post.
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:05 PM   #101
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1 Have you ever thought maybe Veldheer and Houston just didn't want to play in Oakland? Do you want to tag a player that does not want to be here?

I would rather have 11 good players on each side than 1 or 2 exceptional players on each side...

Raiders will be better even with one of the hardest schedules in the NFL, Bank on it..

All these players the Raiders acquired will be there to help the young guys coming in, if the Raiders draft is shit then we are in the same situation, if the Raiders draft quality, they will be set.. Deny all you want, Bash, Piss and moan all you want, I expect that on a rival forum but you can usually tell by the way your rivals react to your acquisitions if they are worried about them.
I admitted Smiff is much better than I would have ever imagined, good for you guys.. Why can't some of you just admit the Raiders got alot tougher.. Last place? Maybe, Maybe not...
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if the Raiders draft is shit then we are in the same situation, if the Raiders draft quality, they will be set.
Obvious statement of the month.

If the Raiders would draft quality in ANY given year, they wouldn't be in last place so often.
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Never been a fan of this guy, nonetheless he is now the best QB they've had since forever... pretty good move for them.
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The Texans traded Matt Schaub to the Raiders for a pick 6.

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Obvious statement of the month.

If the Raiders would draft quality in ANY given year, they wouldn't be in last place so often.
Then what's the Cheaps excuse for the epic failure for the last 40 years?
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