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[notorious]

Sweet. Square needs to develop an old-school Final Fantasy game for Android.


I thought the guy was going to mention console gaming's lack of mouse aiming........

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Originally Posted by notorious

Sweet. Square needs to develop an old-school Final Fantasy game for Android.


I thought the guy was going to mention console gaming's lack of mouse aiming........

I hooked up a usb keyboard and USB wireless mouse to my PS3 and played the Dust 514 beta a few weeks ago. I've been a console guy all my life, so I couldn't get the hang of it, but if I would have put more time into it I can see how it would be better.

I'm not sure if the mouse/keyboard capability is uncommon on PS3 games or if you can use it with more games, but Dust 514 was the first game that I've heard of that has that feature.
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[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants

I hooked up a usb keyboard and USB wireless mouse to my PS3 and played the Dust 514 beta a few weeks ago. I've been a console guy all my life, so I couldn't get the hang of it, but if I would have put more time into it I can see how it would be better.

I'm not sure if the mouse/keyboard capability is uncommon on PS3 games or if you can use it with more games, but Dust 514 was the first game that I've heard of that has that feature.
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Besides the obvious hardware, this is part of what limits consoles. The 360, for instance does not have any 'legitimate' way to hook up mouse and keyboard. With a PC, you obviously have any sort of user input you wish.

Mouse and keyboard control is ultimate compared to a controller. Yes, the controller is better in some cases (sports games, racing games) but the vast majority of games, especially competitive shooters/mmos, keyboard/mouse reigns supreme.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants

I hooked up a usb keyboard and USB wireless mouse to my PS3 and played the Dust 514 beta a few weeks ago. I've been a console guy all my life, so I couldn't get the hang of it, but if I would have put more time into it I can see how it would be better.

I'm not sure if the mouse/keyboard capability is uncommon on PS3 games or if you can use it with more games, but Dust 514 was the first game that I've heard of that has that feature.
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Oh hell, if you master mouse aiming you would dominate against a controller player.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Originally Posted by notorious

Oh hell, if you master mouse aiming you would dominate against a controller player.

Yep, the aiming part was definitely superior, but moving around was damn near impossible for me. I do have the PS Move "nunchuck" thing. I thought maybe the nunchuk in the left hand, controlling movement with the joystick, and the mouse in the right hand controlling aiming would have been ideal. I never tried it though, kind of lost interest in the beta version of that game, it will be kick ass though when it gets released.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants

Yep, the aiming part was definitely superior, but moving around was damn near impossible for me. I do have the PS Move "nunchuck" thing. I thought maybe the nunchuk in the left hand, controlling movement with the joystick, and the mouse in the right hand controlling aiming would have been ideal. I never tried it though, kind of lost interest in the beta version of that game, it will be kick ass though when it gets released.

Move with the keyboard and left hand, mouse in right hand.

I didn't like it way back when I played Half-Life in 98', but once I got used to it, WOW.


You can strafe with the keyboard (A,D), and turn/aim with the mouse. Customize the buttons around your base keys (A,S,D,W) for crouching, jumping, special attack, etc.

I use the mousewheel forward for Attack 2, and mousewheel back for reloading. Right click can be action/activate button.

The speed of mouse/keyboard battles are sooooo much faster than controller battles. I laugh at the thought playing Unreal Tournament with a controller.

[candyman]

Originally Posted by notorious

Sweet. Square needs to develop an old-school Final Fantasy game for Android.

Check the Play Store, there are already three of them I believe. Ive been playing the shit out of FF3, its great.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by candyman

Check the Play Store, there are already three of them I believe. Ive been playing the shit out of FF3, its great.

I want all-new. I love the originals, and have played them through probably 3 to 5 times each, but if there is a new ff like the old games for 25 to 40 bucks on my phone, I will buy it.

[candyman]

Originally Posted by notorious

I want all-new. I love the originals, and have played them through probably 3 to 5 times each, but if there is a new ff like the old games for 25 to 40 bucks on my phone, I will buy it.

The ff3 for Android is nothing like ff3 on (American) NES. I think its the same as the one for DS though.