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Old 04-04-2024, 12:25 PM  
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Worst Case First Round shake-out?

Fellas, I did my initial first round mock all the way through, and it leaves the Chiefs pretty high and dry.

What do you do in this scenario? I put Coleman in as a filler and I would rather trade down out of this spot.
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Old 04-04-2024, 12:31 PM   #2
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1. Xavier Worthy
2. Keon Coleman
3. Troy Franklin
4. Kingsley Suamataia
5. Jordan Morgan

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Old 04-04-2024, 12:59 PM   #3
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What do we think of the Eagles as a sneaky trade up partner? The value of the Board is a lot more likely to be aligned with the Chiefs needs, and Philly could probably use extra draft assets. Is it worth 32 + 95 + next year's third? Does that get it done for Philly?
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Old 04-04-2024, 01:14 PM   #4
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I'd give them our 2nd next year to move up and take BTJ there.
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Old 04-04-2024, 03:53 PM   #5
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I think just about everyone is taking Xavier Worthy if it shakes out that way.
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Old 04-04-2024, 04:22 PM   #6
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Yeah, no 1st round WR's left.


I would have traded up for one of the top WR's.
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Old 04-04-2024, 04:27 PM   #7
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1. Xavier Worthy
2. Keon Coleman
3. Troy Franklin
4. Jordan Morgan
5. Kingsley Suamataia
Yeah - I've done the worst case thing a couple times and there really isn't one.

I think you'll absolutely have some combination of Morgan, Suamataia, Mitchell and/or Worthy available. And while I don't love Worthy, it appears the Chiefs do.

And if some/all of those guys aren't there, you'll have someone like Newton slide.

I'm really not worried about options at the back of the 1st here. I think we'll have 2-3 we like. I was more worried a month or so ago when I hadn't convinced myself on a couple of the OTs.

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I haven't spent time on the tackles.

Can someone explain why Jordan Morgan, a tackle with 33 inch arms is considered a good idea? Then I also see the word "development" and it gets even stranger...
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I haven't spent time on the tackles.

Can someone explain why Jordan Morgan, a tackle with 33 inch arms is considered a good idea? Then I also see the word "development" and it gets even stranger...
I'm skeptical that the Chiefs would take him because of this, but the tape is good, and it doesn't appear to be a huge issue for him.

I think Kingsley is more of a project, but has more upside as well. I prefer Kingsley (got the order wrong in my post above though).
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If they want a tackle I would bet they trade up to get them. If one of the tackles falls past the Steelers into the 20’s I’d be calling.
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Old 04-04-2024, 05:37 PM   #11
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In that case, chop Robinson? I know he doesn’t fit the mold for spags but he’d be fun to watch.
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If they want a tackle I would bet they trade up to get them. If one of the tackles falls past the Steelers into the 20’s I’d be calling.
Yes, please.
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If they want a tackle I would bet they trade up to get them. If one of the tackles falls past the Steelers into the 20’s I’d be calling.
I tend to agree. If they want a LT, I think they move up.

If they want a WR, I could easily see them staying put at 32.
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Heard this guy's name today on the radio. No idea how to spell it, just taking my best shot here: Kinsley Sumataya? Guy's from BYU, 6'5" 329-lbs., supposed to be a hell of a pass-blocker with the agility/power to be a good run-blocker, probably. That's all according to the guy on the radio.


Anyone think this could happen with our 1st pick, if say Worthy is already off the board? I know we need a LT, so thought this might be interesting.
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If you gotta choose bn Kingsley and chop, it’s gotta be chop Robinson?

CHOP ROBINSON
PENN STATE
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Prospect Info
COLLEGE
Penn State
HOMETOWN
CLASS
Gaithersburg, MD
Junior
HEIGHT
6’ 3’’
WEIGHT
254 lbs
ARM
32 1/2’’
HAND
9 1/8’’

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u-unofficial
40-Yard Dash
4.48
Seconds
10-Yard Split
1.54
Seconds
Vertical Jump
34.5’’
Broad Jump
10’ 8’’
3-Cone Drill
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20-Yd Shuttle
4.25
Seconds

NFL Comparison
Micah Parsons
Overview
Edge defender who offers the type of elite athleticism we’ve seen from players like Micah Parsons and Myles Garrett. Robinson might not be as fast as Parsons, but he’s close. He’s ultra-twitchy with the explosiveness to get on top of blockers and overwhelm them in an instant. However, he will need to level up his hand skills and attack angles to reach his potential against NFL tackles. Robinson’s electric athletic traits alone should give him a floor as a good NFL starter. If he crafts a rush approach and learns to string moves/counters together, he could reach his ceiling as a destructive force capable of forcing teams to game plan around him.
Strengths
Possesses rare explosiveness and speed to overwhelm blockers across from him.
Plays with natural leverage and powerful leg drive to create stress on blocker’s edges.
Wicked pursuit speed reduces space for outside runners and quarterbacks.
Able to do battle with big tackles and still set a firm edge.
Slant quickness creates opportunity to disrupt play design.
Tears out of his stance like a track sprinter into his rush.
Exceptional lower-body flexion to dip way low and corner tightly at the turn.
Finesse tackles without a true anchor will be found out by his bull rush.
Weaknesses
Relatively modest production totals relative to elite traits.
Needs to work on technique and hand usage for block take-ons.
Inconsistent keeping feet under his pads, leading to slippage.
Hands and feet lack harmony as a pass rusher.
Still learning to set up tackles and create his itinerary into the pocket.
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“I get the comparison to Micah Parsons, but I think Parsons was a little more polished as a football player when he came out. Chop is still a little green.” - NFC national scout
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