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Old 04-26-2017, 11:29 PM  
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****2017 NFL Draft Thread**** (NO Spoilers)

Let's ****ing do this.

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1. No spoiled picks in this thread, all weekend. This means that as tweets are leaking picks a few minutes before the selection is announced live, you don't post it in this thread (ex: embedded tweets), reference it in this thread (ex: Joe Slapdick says it's McCaffrey to Tampa) or hint at it (ex: "it's a RB!").

Don't be a dick.

Otherwise, have fun, talk shit, freak out and lose your goddamned minds. It's Draft Weekend. The hot takes in these threads are so funny.

I'll also be starting threads for each of our picks as they are made, with videos and notable stats/takes in the OP. Pure knee jerk gold to reference in the future.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:10 PM   #2806
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There is not one team today who would take Watson over Mahomes. The argument of who was better was valid.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:11 PM   #2807
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If you’re not old enough to have seen SB4 this day was probably the best day in Chiefs history for you. It was for me.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:24 PM   #2808
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Watson has played well the arm argument was a stupid one
No, it wasn't then and it isn't now.

Watson is essentially exactly what 2017 Alex Smith was. I mean to the damn letter. Younger, sure, but I don't see him having the physical tools to be much better than he is now. He's faster than Smith but also has some of the worst pocket presence in the league. If you wanted 5 more years of the 2017 Alex offense (which was admittedly pretty good), Watson was how you go about getting it.

Watson's average arm talent was always the reason he wasn't worth trading up for. It was always the thing that put a ceiling on him as being a slightly above average game manager.

Concerns about his arm talent were always valid. It just isn't very good.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:38 PM   #2809
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God I ****ing LIVE for draft weekend. My birthday is the 25th so round 1 I’m hoping for a nice present from Veach.

This particular weekend was fun to relive. Thanks for the thread bump. Glorious times.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:45 PM   #2810
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No, it wasn't then and it isn't now.

Watson is essentially exactly what 2017 Alex Smith was. I mean to the damn letter. Younger, sure, but I don't see him having the physical tools to be much better than he is now. He's faster than Smith but also has some of the worst pocket presence in the league. If you wanted 5 more years of the 2017 Alex offense (which was admittedly pretty good), Watson was how you go about getting it.

Watson's average arm talent was always the reason he wasn't worth trading up for. It was always the thing that put a ceiling on him as being a slightly above average game manager.

Concerns about his arm talent were always valid. It just isn't very good.
"But it can improve!" That's what I was told.

I get that any NFL QB worth the weight of his own shit will improve his throwing accuracy overtime in his NFL career. If Watson stays healthy and continues to start, yes, he will improve his accuracy.

Throwing velocity and arm strength is where I really get skeptical. QBs without the biggest, strongest arms have success in the league all the time, but is it ever because they improved that arm strength to be "just good enough" from where it was? Because that's what Watson needs to do, and I have yet to see an historical example of this taking place.

In any case, where I really laugh is how people on here were excited about Mahomes having an in-conference rival, and how that rival was probably going to be Watson.

Watch Mahomes play. Then watch Watson play. These fans are insulting Mahomes by claiming Watson is his rival.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:53 PM   #2811
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Also, I had a big smile reading the tributes to Lonewolf Ed and Saccopoo right after Mahomes was drafted.

Best moment in Chiefs history since their Super Bowl win had just occurred, and people instantly thought of those who couldn't be around to enjoy it with us.

Say what you will about CP, but we're a pretty damn tight community.
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God I ****ing LIVE for draft weekend. My birthday is the 25th so round 1 I’m hoping for a nice present from Veach.

This particular weekend was fun to relive. Thanks for the thread bump. Glorious times.
I went back through the draft forum leading up to that draft - probably the best the draft forum has ever been. Some really damn high level conversation going on in there.

But I also stumbled upon the reason Billay is here re-litigating the 'arm strength isn't important' nonsense - because he was on the wrong side of the argument.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=Watson

He was a Watson honk. So of course he's gonna sit here and try to say "no, I wasn't wrong...." when in fact the REASON he was wrong is precisely the argument he's trying to disregard.
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Also, I had a big smile reading the tributes to Lonewolf Ed and Saccopoo right after Mahomes was drafted.

Best moment in Chiefs history since their Super Bowl win had just occurred, and people instantly thought of those who couldn't be around to enjoy it with us.

Say what you will about CP, but we're a pretty damn tight community.
You once actively hoped that I would be sodomized by Herb Taylor.

I mean...it doesn't feel like a tight community. Then again, you really like Herb Taylor (had to be the glasses) so maybe it was akin to you hoping that I would get a 15 minutes alone with Alexandra Daddario and you just didn't know how to express yourself.

I'm sure that was it.
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We still don't have an ILB from this draft and just traded up for a truly questionable pick.

Apart from Mahomes (which makes this an A either way), I really don't like this draft.
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Congrats on needing Kpassagnon to become an NFL starter in order to salvage your shenanigans, sir. You're truly in an enviable position here. Credit to you for going to the mattresses in favor of Jeremy Maclin though; I really like how he didn't even make it to camp before they cut him.

You were all over it, big fella.
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You once actively hoped that I would be sodomized by Herb Taylor.

I mean...it doesn't feel like a tight community. Then again, you really like Herb Taylor (had to be the glasses) so maybe it was akin to you hoping that I would get a 15 minutes alone with Alexandra Daddario and you just didn't know how to express yourself.

I'm sure that was it.
I'm sorry. I was wrong.

I should have said I hope you get sodomized by Terrance Copper. THAT would have been the most treasurable blessing I could ever offer another human.
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