Peter King: Scouts not impressed with 2013 QB class

[Quesadilla Joe]

Bad year to pick a QB 1, 2 or 3. QBs sinking like stones in eyes of NFL scouts.


https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/sta...03092294238208

[O.city]

Granted Barkley has great skill guys around him, Geno has some pretty good ones himself.

I'm not trying to start a pissing war here man. I'm just saying, the past 3 games, big games for WVU, it seems as if Geno hasn't played very well.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Barkley may have truly ****ed himself by staying one more year. He certainly would have been taken before Tannehill and may have given the Shanahan's a second thought about trading up.

That said, USC has some serious flaws. The loss of scholarships is really hitting them hard this year and they've clearly not ascended.

Barkley will be fine. Much like Matt Ryan, he's somewhat of a product of those around him.

I don't know nearly enough about Smith to say the same but to date, I am supremely unimpressed with CP's latest obsession.

I'm extremely ignorant to Barkley, so please be gentle here, but what separates Barkley from the other system QB's that USC has produced?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I'm extremely ignorant to Barkley, so please be gentle here, but what separates Barkley from the other system QB's that USC has produced?

He's been a four year starter under terrible circumstances. USC has lost 15 scholarships per year since the Reggie Bush sanctions three years ago and all that USC has done is win and win big.

He's thrown 102 passes and 39 interceptions. He's not a one year starter like Sanchez or a NO YEAR starter like Cassel.

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's been a four year starter under terrible circumstances. USC has lost 15 scholarships per year since the Reggie Bush sanctions three years ago and all that USC has done is win and win big.

He's thrown 102 passes and 39 interceptions. He's not a one year starter like Sanchez or a NO YEAR starter like Cassel.

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

Out of curiosity, if you had to rate your favorites for this draft class, how would the order stack up?

[Titty Meat]

Barkley's biggest game will be against the Notre Dame defense which is good. USC is going to play in some shitty bowl like the Sun Bowl.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Out of curiosity, if you had to rate your favorites for this draft class, how would the order stack up?

Dude, I really can't make a determination because it's so early in the season. Many teams have their toughest games ahead plus Bowl season, so everything could change.

Heading into the season, Barkley was the considered the best QB in the country and I haven't seen anything to change that so far, even though he's had some "bad" games.

IMO, the guy that was hurt the most was Wilson. Petrino made him look like a superstar, so in a way, that may be a blessing in disguise, although I do think he has potential.

I wouldn't touch Bray right now with a 30 foot pole.

Again, it's early and IMO, really too early to be making any sort of judgments about the #1 or #2 overall pick.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IMO, the guy that was hurt the most was Wilson. Petrino made him look like a superstar, so in a way, that may be a blessing in disguise, although I do think he has potential.

I wouldn't touch Bray right now with a 30 foot pole.

Again, it's early and IMO, really too early to be making any sort of judgments about the #1 or #2 overall pick.

That's actually a pretty good call on Wilson.

He's been substandard since Petrino got the boot.

[Sorter]

His o-line play has been abysmal as well.

[Ming the Merciless]

Does this mean we should take another D-Lineman?

[cdcox]

The problem with this draft class is that none of them has played for the Pats or Browns.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's been a four year starter under terrible circumstances. USC has lost 15 scholarships per year since the Reggie Bush sanctions three years ago and all that USC has done is win and win big.

He's thrown 102 passes and 39 interceptions. He's not a one year starter like Sanchez or a NO YEAR starter like Cassel.

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

The comparison to Matt Ryan is what worries me.

To this point in the NFL, he's been exactly what several people thought he would be - steady but unspectacular. Surround by superior talent, he hasn't managed to win a single playoff game.

Matt Ryan has a chance to erase all of those worries this season. But what if this is his ceiling? My worry with Barkley is that he just doesn't have "it".

I guess beggars can't be choosers.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Matt Ryan has a chance to erase all of those worries this season. But what if this is his ceiling? My worry with Barkley is that he just doesn't have "it".

I guess beggars can't be choosers.

What is IT? Not being a wise guy. I know your favorite is Geno, so what does he have that is IT?

[eazyb81]

Barkley isn't exactly Andrew Luck, but his NFL success will depend entirely on if his offensive scheme maximizes his strengths.

Also, you can't overlook the strong correlation between four year college starters drafted in the 1st round and NFL success. Off the top of my head, current NFL starters that can check this box include both Mannings, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Andy Dalton, RG3, and Jay Cutler. There is something to be said about having enough college experience to make a smooth transition to the NFL.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

What is IT? Not being a wise guy. I know your favorite is Geno, so what does he have that is IT?

To be fair, I'm not sure Geno has "it" either.

What I see in Barkley is a guy that has a really low ceiling for a top-rated QB. He doesnt' have the "clutch" stuff that just makes you say wow.

What he is is solid and steady. Which is great if you want to recreate what the Falcons or Chargers have done the last few years.

Myself, I want to win a Super Bowl and Barkley just doesn't seem to have that spark of being able to take a team on his back and will them to a win.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

Matt Ryan was/is a strong leader. Barkley hasn't shown that yet. He's not Matt Ryan. He doesn't have that kind of command. I see people taking the most important qualitites for granted way too much around here lately.